ABC "news" just hatcheted Kennedy's autism vaccine story

[linazelle]

Showed a three second clip of Kennedy followed by a newsreader shaking papers from a medical report saying vaccines are safe. Said 500k people have autism in US currently. Then brought on an industry representative who said Kennedy's proof of a coverup of the effects of vaccines is out of context. Followed that by an "expert" who said Kennedy is a lawyer and has no authority to question medical findings which overwhelmingly support vaccines. Said expert stated he would recommend his grandchildren (who are probably 39 and 40 years old judging by his age) get vaccines "again."

There.

That does it.

No problem with vaccines.

Next issue. (Did you hear they found the camping boyscout?)

:puke:

[goclark]

1. They LIE!

I have worked with children that have Autism and they need to stop pushing their little vaccine until they PROVE to Kennedy that it is not so.

Kennedy is hitting on a tipping oint and they know it. If he can catch them in this CRUEL LIE to save their $$$$'s, that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Go Kennedy ! Save the Children!

[linazelle]

2. I know they lie...autism was unheard of 30 or 40 years ago, now

500,000 people have it. That's telling. They know they lie too.

[merbex]

11. I just saw our town's Superintendent of Schools (who has worked in

our town's school system at least 40 years,1st as a teacher now at Supt.) that autism has exploded in the last 10 -15 years and is extremely costly to school systems

Prior to that time,almost unheard of, she said

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. History of autism

Throughout history, people have probably lived with what we know today as autism spectrum disorders. Some of the earliest published descriptions of behavior that resemble autism date back to the 18th century.

The term autism was, for years, only used in some circles of psychiatrists and psychologists. It is believed to have been first introduced around 1911 by noted Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler, who used the term to describe an individual's exclusion of the outside world and virtual withdrawal from social life. The words "autistic" and "autism" are developed from the Greek word "autos" meaning "self."

Autism was first described as a specific condition by Dr. Leo Kanner, of Baltimore, Md., who published his famous paper on the disorder in 1943. In 1944, Dr. Hans Asperger, of Vienna, Austria, published another famous paper that first described a similar condition that later became known as Asperger Syndrome. These landmark papers featured the first theoretical attempts to explain these complex disorders.


http://www.naar.org/aboutaut/whatis_hist.htm

[Bridget Burke]

16. They used to call them "changelings"

The good people (or little people or people who lived under the hill) would steal a baby and substitute one of their own. The changeling looked like the stolen baby, but was strange and remote.

A first cousin was diagnosed as autistic--long before the suspect vaccinations. First they thought he was deaf, then retarded. None of the behavioral treatments that help some autistics were available back then. He never became verbal and was institutionalized.

Surely mercury should be removed from vaccinations--mostly, it has been. And the industry dealings must be investigated. But vaccination itself is still needed. Too many children (& adults) died or were permanently injured in the past.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. It is not a brand new disorder

as some posters have implied here.

I also agree the mercury should be removed. Seems like a rather simple solution to me. Let's see if the incidence of autism drops now that mercury is being removed from vaccines. In fact, a researcher is collecting data as I type this. We should have an answer in a year or two. If we see a significant drop in autism cases, then it would appear that tens of thousands of parents have grounds for a lawsuit.

[lostnfound]

3. I think they had at least a 5 to 1 ratio on the airtime..

30 seconds of Kennedy, 3 minutes of the other guys.

I bet Kennedy is more of a scientist than the guy that edited the global warming report for BushInc.

[cornermouse]

4. Since his grandchildren got vaccinated without ill effects the first time

it should be safe for them again. That little bit of bravado simply means his kids aren't as vulnerable as others.

[Igel]

5. Just avoid vaccines that contain thimerosal.

http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#t1 contains a list of the most common vaccines; tables 2 and 3 are expanded versions.

Many of those are combined vaccines, and for some there are alternative suppliers. Sit down with the pediatrician and work out how to get the maximum number of non-thimerosal-containing vaccines.

BTW, I don't recall any reports of declines in reported autism rates for the US as fewer and fewer vaccines had less and less Hg in them.

[LeftyMom]

8. My child had a bad reaction to a non-thimerosol vaccination

Injecting foreign protiens into the bloodstream isn't a good idea. I don't think it's the thimerosol alone, I think it's the whole massive assult on the immune system by vaccinations and increased toxins and pollutants in the natual enmviornment effecting kids in utero and as babies.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Too Hot To Handle.

Plus Merck rang up and threatened to yank its commercials.

[blm]

7. Exactly what they do. The real story left on editing room floor while the

lies are allowed plenty of spinning time.

[goclark]

9. Robert Kennedy Jr. is a brilliant and brave soul

IMO, he is not in it for the fame ,glory or money.
Maybe I am wrong but ABC is paid for lock stock and barrel by the drug industry.
When the dam breaks on the entire drug industry it will be massive.

Since Bush will nnt let that happen, we are stuck with an assault on the Trial Lawyers.

[linazelle]

10. Ah yes, the assault on trial lawyers...

The "expert" didn't fail to throw out the fact that Kennedy's a lawyer with what I thought was a bit of denigration, as he refuted the claims.

[Junkdrawer]

12. I'll give you another example of the kind of problem he faces...

You may not know that Salon had to print a correction. In the correction it states:

The article also misstated the level of ethylmercury received by infants injected with all their shots by the age of six months. It was 187 micrograms -- an amount 40 percent, not 187 times, greater than the EPA's limit for daily exposure to methylmercury.

http://www.salon.com/letters/corrections/2005/index.html#thimerosal

Sounds bad, huh? Well the problem comes in because of the word "limit". The EPA "limit" for one portion of fish is 120 micrograms. However, the EPA "recommendation" for one day's serving of fish, for a 22 lb. 6-month-old is 1 microgram. So if RFK Jr. had said "recommendation" instead of "limit", no correction would have been necessary.

BTW: That 120 microgram limit is the result of an awful legal ruling (United States v. Anderson Seafoods, Inc., 622F.2d157, 1980) that is documented here:

http://uspirg.org/reports/brainfoodreport.pdf

And yes, who sits on the Federal circuit court makes a big difference.

[Junkdrawer]

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[orleans]

14. go bobby go! (cheerleading here)

go bobby go!

[H2O Man]

17. Imus spanked ABC this morning.

I think it may be a good thing if ABC attempts to present it as a non-issue, because MSNBC isn't going along with that perception. Anything that increases the debate is better than having it totally ignored.

[blm]

18. Imus will cuz he cares about this issue, but, the only Kennedy that NBC

supports is married to Ahnold.

[Not_Giving_Up]

19. I have a son with Asperger's and ADHD

I've heard the vaccine theory for years now, but nothing concrete. I used to hang out on a message board for parents of these kids, and a lot of people made a discovery. If they took the kid off of the processed foods, gluten, milk, etc., the problems stopped. I thought about it with mine, but he's so picky, he wouldn't eat the new food, and it's very expensive.