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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:30 PM
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I think France promised not to veto any UN resolution......
because the fix is in. The line in the sand was agreed upon and drawn so far away from anyplace * could go that any agreement reached would be acceptable to France. But they doubt it will happen. I think the EU already made the political decision that one more year of suffering in Iraq is worth preventing for more years of * . What a horrible dilemma * has hoisted upon our allies. What do you think?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:43 PM
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1. I think there's something to that...
but there's also the possibility that someone else on the SC will veto a resolution. There will be no 1440's this time around, because that's what the * cabal used for 'legal' justification, although they don't belabor the issue in that regard.

Whether they say they'll veto or not, my belief is that the general consensus is that the US broke it, against the will of the SC, and the US will pay for it.

There's also the notion that if they cave in to neocon demands that will free up the US military to move on to Syria and/or Iran, which is something we know the neocons can't wait to do.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 04:41 AM
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2. An empty resolution: 15-20 thousand troops and 1-2 billion from
the other guys. The Fareed pundit fellow just said that on the Charlie Rose Show. PNACer Bill Kristol, who resents the UN, agreed.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:20 AM
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4. I wish the UN wouldn't do that
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 05:22 AM by legin
It will allow bush* to save face. His spin machine will go into operation and before you know it it will be a fantastic victory for bush*. For instance if I remember right there are now 90 countries in the coalition according to Wolfowitz.

It is bush* losing face that gives us weapons to hit him with.

A little bit of subtle diplomacy and fudging of the issues doesn't work against hardline idealogically driven nutcases like bush* and his rabid neo-cons. You leave a little crack open with these guys and they will drive a fucking lorry through it.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 04:51 AM
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3. That's what I said to my wife this afternoon.
That the only reason chirac said that is because he knows Bush don't have a chance in hell of getting uch out of the UN. After Bush is gone, it will be bush and the freepers that will be irrelevant.
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