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Wed Jun-22-05 09:57 PM
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I just realized how mean Cheney's comment about Dean was |
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shouldn't this be a bigger story?
Let's put aside the irony of Dick Cheney talking about lovability...
Let's just look at it in a totally nonpartisan way. Forget who Cheney is, forget he's a republican.
Look at what's going on. A major war, whose cost just exceeded the Korean War's cost and which is getting worse day by day. A recent cataclysmic attack, whose perpetrator is still at large, and which caused Cheney himself to go into hiding. Nuclear North Korea, nuclear Iran, major upheaval in nuclear former-USSR.
And Cheney comes out of hiding and chooses to launch a petty, juvenile insult at a non-elected political officer of his opposing party? And for what reason? Is it in the interest of the country in any way?
Isn't that just weird?
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:01 PM
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1. What kind of person brings someone elses Mother into an arguement? |
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:05 PM
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3. especially at such a high level |
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are there any equivalents of any dem ever saying anything like this?
Did Al Gore personally insult any republican like this, even during the bitterest partisan conflicts of the Clinton years?
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:07 PM
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5. Imagine, for a moment, if Al Gore had made such a remark... |
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during his tenure as VP. The public pillorying of Al would have continued for years.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:11 PM
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whatever anyone thinks of Gore, for him to say something like this is unthinkable.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:20 PM
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20. Well, of course, he wouldn't. Al Gore is a gentleman of the highest order. |
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My point is that the media essentially ignored Bigtime Dick's remarks. But we all know they would have kept them front and center for weeks, or even longer, had they been uttered by a Democrat of the same office.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:14 PM
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14. The difference between Gore and Cheney |
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is Gore has more class. He wouldn't ever insult someone's mother like that or family member. Cheney is an immature baby.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:25 PM
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22. You're correct. See post number 20. |
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Thu Jun-23-05 02:51 AM
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27. Why do high level repukes have no |
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Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 02:51 AM by LibDemAlways
respect for Dem's mothers? Bob Dole went after Clinton on national tv on the morning Clinton's mother died. Clinton thought that was a profoundly cheap shot, and it hurt him deeply. Dole finally apologized years later saying "Bob Dole wouldn't do that." (Interesting how Dole always refers to himself in the third person as though he isn't comfortable in his own skin.)
Anyhow, showing disrespect to someone's mother in the upper reaches of the political world is about as low as it gets. I would expect nothing less, though, from pond scum like Cheney.
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Thu Jun-23-05 05:56 AM
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29. Dole apologized--no wonder he lost the election. |
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The thing about the neocons is that they have absorbed the notion that to admit error is weakness. They do not admit error.
Democrats take note. You are dealing with thugs.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:04 PM
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2. Not weird. Typically juvenile. |
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Bullies who can't justify their actions always resort to personal insults against anyone bold enough to stand up to them. It's all they've got.
Cheney should be laughed right out of existence.
Dean handled him beautifully.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:07 PM
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Pardon my ignorance; I've been away.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:10 PM
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paraphrasing, "Maybe his mother loves him, I don't know anyone who does. I don't know if he's ever won anything."
also odd, Cheney's linking of love and winning...
also, how many terms did Dean win in VT? Five?
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:19 PM
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18. Well, if Cheney doesn't like Dean..... |
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I guess that's as good a reason as any for me to like him.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:12 PM
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11. On Hannity & That Other Guy, he said the following about Gov. Dean... |
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"I've never been able to understand his appeal. Maybe his mother loved him, but I've never met anybody who does. He's never won anything, as best I can tell."
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:08 PM
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6. "What a cheap and tawdry political trick." |
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"...Lynne Cheney could no longer hold her silence about the repeated mention of her daughter's sexuality."Remember that brouhaha? WASHINGTON — Presidential candidate John Kerry (search) launched into damage control Thursday afternoon after angering Vice President Cheney (search) and his family and alienating some voters by mentioning that Cheney's daughter, Mary, is gay.Kerry Clarifies 'Lesbian' Remark Saturday, October 16, 2004http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135392,00.htmlGoogle search http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&biw=&hl=en&q=cheney+daughter+edwards&btnG=Google+Search
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:08 PM
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7. Cheney's "gravitas" is rather overrated and he's very thin skinned |
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He curses out US senators on the senate floor, curses out reporters over open microphones and explicitly lies the country into a war.
In the end, he's just another Republican hack white male who has little concern beyond stuffing his pockets.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:12 PM
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12. he's a poor man's Dennis Hastert |
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:10 PM
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8. i think it's pathetic and sad. how bad off do you have to be |
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to resort to a "yo mamma" joke anytime after the 8th grade?
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:14 PM
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Thu Jun-23-05 02:26 AM
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24. jesus! when were those numbers? i thought 42% was the lowest. |
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that's pretty BAD, alright...
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:14 PM
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13. Cheney to Dean: "Yo Mama" |
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is what it boils down to (Dean's response was pretty dignified in comparason - imo)
When I can't deal with issues - I throw out a bullying insult. Aren't we proud of the man elected as Vice President?
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:16 PM
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16. That's exactly what I said |
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to hubby last night.
Cheney: "Yo momma!"
Dean: "Heyeah, what ever!"
Childish, not to mention kinda like "pot meet kettle".
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:17 PM
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17. No evidence he was elected; less that he had a mother. n/t |
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:19 PM
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Cheney is such a coward, he can only appear in safe settings like the Sean Hannity show.
Dean meanwhile is travelling all over the red states. :toast:
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:22 PM
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21. He's a mean bastard. Mean. |
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Thu Jun-23-05 02:58 AM
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28. Cheney is evil incarnate. |
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Satan personified. The kind of nasty bastard who'd run you over in the street and then complain that you got his tires dirty.
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:43 PM
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When the Vice president of the United States insults the DNC chairman.
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Thu Jun-23-05 02:28 AM
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25. Cheney needs to be slapped, politically speaking. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 02:28 AM by BurtWorm
He needs to have his nose rubbed in how unloved he is.
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Thu Jun-23-05 02:29 AM
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26. Pfft, Iraq has cost more than Korea and Vietnam combined. |
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Thu Jun-23-05 06:25 AM
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30. Dean had a pretty good comeback on News Hour |
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When asked what his mother thought about Cheney's remark, Dean answered.
"She doesn't think much. You know, the first time she ever voted Democratic for president was this past election. She's one of those Republicans who have had it. That's why my mother is a Democrat now even after 75 years, it took her 75 years to change her mind."
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Thu Jun-23-05 06:58 AM
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31. Given Cheney's track record, not entirely unexpected. |
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