It is flag Desecration, not just flag Burning.

[uppityperson]

I'm thinking this could mean no more tattered car antenna flags allowed, no more clothing flags, no more flaggie disposable diapers, no more flaggie stickers partially removed, no more flaggie stamps since they just get thrown away after the envelope is received, no more lots of flaggie things. I still don't like it, but am concerned that the focus is so much on Burning, and not Desecration.

edited for typo.

[Sean Reynolds]

1. No more this....

[uppityperson]

3. Exactly. Desecration takes many forms. It is NOT just burning.

It may seem small potatoes semantically, but there is a big difference between desecration and and burning.

[GOPisEvil]

15. Some Senator should blow this picture up for the floor debate.

There's a better picture that shows that it really is * signing the flag.

[genius]

2. Yeh, but they won't enforce it against the Republicans.

[cynatnite]

4. desecration is like pornography

you know it when you see it.

That's why this admendment makes me nervous

[uppityperson]

6. That is a big problem. Burning is simpler to define.

Fire=burning. Desecration=?

If it were to pass (still need Senate then States to ratify) and IF the right group got into power, could stop the flag from being used most everywhere. I am very much against this amendment, just trying to figure out any positive points and re-emphasizing that we need to use the right word-desecration.

[gumby]

5. That's where "intent" is relevant.

And who decides that?

A tattered flag on an antenna with a Boosh sticker is OK.
A tattered flag on an antenna with a Democratic sticker is "desecration."

Furthermore, this whole thing is about "consecrating" a National Symbol. It's about Christianizing the Nation. The Christianists already got "under God" into the pledge. This is just another step in merging Church and State.

[Erika]

7. Ah, aren't there more relevant matters?

Who is making a big Issue of flag desecration? I emailed my GOP DC reps that perhaps they should address issues such as low wages and the uninsured instead.

[baron j]

8. Odd, considering that burning is the proper way of disposing the flag:

Federal Flag Code

http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/flagcode.html


"...(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning..."


I took a peek at those awful Yahoo! message boards for an article regarding the proposed flag amendment, and many of the idiots there were posting "libs this, libs that, blah, blah, love burning the flag, etc", so I posted: "Libs burn flag. Cons scorch earth".

[teryang]

10. Funny how jingoistic grandstanding by political hacks

...conceals the ironic truth. How many times is this hackneyed manipulation trotted out? I guess it had its heyday when it became obvious we were losing the Vietnam War. When I say obvious I mean obvious to joe sixpack.

Why pass a law you know is unconstitutional? Oh our reps don't know about a Constitution or their oath of office. They forgot about it after the Reichstag fire, ...er..I mean 911.

Ever hear anyone in Congress calling for results on the anthrax (Congressional assassination attempts) investigation? I wonder why that is?

[baron j]

11. Yeah, I'm still wondering about the anthrax letters investigation.

How soon people forget all the frightful missives warning us about mail with greasy spots on it, missing return addresses, etc.

[baron j]

12. Sorry! double post

[queeg]

9. So this means

That if I happen to see a flag burning, I can't piss on it to put it out?

[sandnsea]

13. then let's frame it

Every time somebody talks about this, they should ONLY talk about the desecration part. Either how hard it is going to be to draw the line in regards to clothing and the rest; or, how glad you are that all those people who are exploiting the flag will have to stop.

[uppityperson]

14. Exactly. Good succinct framing of the Desecration part.

Problem is Not libruls burning the flag, problem is defining desecration, good part is psuedo-patriots will stop exploiting it.