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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:27 AM
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Weird. I agree with wingers. IFC is inappropriate for new WTC memorial
IFC being, not Independent Film Channel or Indiana Fried Chicken, but International Freedom Center. Some 9/11 families say it will detract from the purpose of the memorial, which is to remember 9/11. Wingers say it will politicize the monument--but they claim it will be used for America bashing. I don't see how something George Bush-toady Pataki wants on the site can be used for America-bashing. But I do believe nothing useful can come out of creating an institution that supposedly "celebrates freedom and democracy." Sounds like a cockamie neo-con propaganda ploy to me. Feh.

http://takebackthememorial.com/
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:30 AM
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1. Forget all that, let's build a memorial to our victory in Iraq.
The overthrow of Hussein, the installation of true democracy, etc.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:36 AM
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3. There you go! We can rename a section of
Arlington National Cemetery "Freedom On The March Grove" or something!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:36 AM
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4. Now you're talking!
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:33 AM
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2. International Freedom Center - how ironic
a place that will be HQs of multinational corps. raping and pillaging countries all across the globe.
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:41 AM
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5. I agree with the families
The memorial should be about 9-11 the events, the people, what was lost...period.

If you want a freedom museam go someplace else
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:54 AM
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6. I agree with you.
From NY Post (6/23):

Critics — including many families of 9/11 victims — said the only history lesson that should be taught at Ground Zero is about the heroes who were killed that day.


Change the word "heroes" to "people" and I endorse this without reservation.

It makes no sense building a center at "Ground Zero" (God, how I hate that term) that tries to explain the intifada, or Jim Crow lynchings, or the rape of the Balkans, or Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Communism, Imperialism, whatever. Not there. Keep it on topic, focusing on the senseless deaths of 9/11. Do not let it be hijacked by ideologues of any stripe.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:14 PM
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7. no way
this center will help teach people WHY the WTC was taken down.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:18 PM
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8. I agree, egregiously tacky
to set up a "freedom center" on a mass grave.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:21 PM
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9. The word freedom is being politicized.
Freedom fries, Freedom is on the march, They hate us for our freedoms, Freedom tower.

Its gross if you ask me.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:48 PM
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10. There should be a Freedom anti-desecration amendment
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 12:49 PM by BurtWorm
to prevent wingers from shitting all over the word and concept.

(Not really. ;) )
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:54 PM
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11. it has no place there
its being over-programmed.

and no matter what the IFC contains, it will be a watered down bullshit compromise that won't make anyone happy. especially since no one knows what "freedom" means. if they ever did.
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