Well, they've gone and done it now...

[mnmoderatedem]

Any guesses on how the pro war crowd will try to spin this information?

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, a U.S. counterterrorism official said on Wednesday.


A classified report from the U.S. spy agency says Iraqi and foreign fighters are developing a broad range of deadly skills, from car bombings and assassinations to tightly coordinated conventional attacks on police and military targets, the official said.

Once the insurgency ends, Islamic militants are likely to disperse as highly organized battle-hardened combatants capable of operating throughout the Arab-speaking world and in other regions including Europe.

Fighters leaving Iraq would primarily pose a challenge for their countries of origin including Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

**Edited by Admin - please limit your excerpts from copyrighted sources to four paragraphs.**

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N22703390.htm

[MissMillie]

1. There's only one way TO spin this

Iraq was not a terrorist state before we went in there. This invasion has been a miserable failure.

[northzax]

7. where'd you get that map?

thanks...

[MissMillie]

9. I don't remember where I got it

I think someone here posted it.

[ComerPerro]

24. Oh, that's not the only way. Consider what this means for Bush

"Better to fight them there than on the streets here."

They will take this statement and say that as long as they are being drawn there, so therefore we are able to fight them all in one area.

Expect some rhetoric about our enemies being "in their last throwes" and how they are "on the run"...

Essentially, they will spin this as further evidence of the shit they have been slinging for the last two years.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. Why does the CIA hate us for our freedoms?

The CIA are a traitor!

[NorCalDem]

18. I actually have read this response

already. That the CIA is a liberal front out to destroy America! They are serious, some people out there actually believe this now all because the CIA had the nerve to claim that things aren't peachy in Iraq.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Some people will believe anything especially if they think

it some how justifies what they so desperately need to justify, because the facts and truth can't back them up.

[stopbush]

3. * is TRYING to destroy the USA.

It's the 800-lb gorilla sitting in the room...and the only logical explanation for his actions since he was illegally installed by the SCOTUS.

[Karenina]

26. It's genetic.

[fob]

4. Link? Because that's some pretty shocking testimony there and I'd

hate for it to be a skit and not an actual story.


Bin Laden won prominence as a U.S. ally in the war against Soviet troops in Afghanistan. He later used Afghanistan as the training center for his al Qaeda network, which is blamed for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on Washington and New York.


That bold part is amazing. Are the spooks LI/MIHOP'ers?

[mnmoderatedem]

8. here's the link

Thanks for asking. I probably should have provided it initially...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050622/pl_nm/security_iraq_cia_dc

[indigo32]

17. Heard about this on NPR yesterday Eve

thanks for posting it.

WHY WHY WHY wasn't this obvious to them?
What else could be the outcome of this idiotic excercise

[junkiebrewster]

13. WTF does LIHOP/MIHOP stand for?

I'm new here and see these acronyms used frequently. TIA.

[nyhuskyfan]

14. Let it happen on purpose/Made it happen on purpose...

Referring to 9/11

WTF stands for what the f***

[Al-CIAda]

37. Good catch. n/t

[AX10]

5. President George W. Bush made Iraq a terrorist state.

[Old_Fart]

10. President?

I would never give the dirt bag that title :grr:

[AceAlmighty82]

27. I agree with you on that one

This will go one for a couple more years..maybe even longer..shit won't get straightened out until Cuckoo Bananas is no longer in the WH

[newyawker99]

29. Hi AceAlmighty82!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Moochy]

6. but it's classified

Here's the spin, Treasonous left-wing advocacy journalism, reveailing a classified report!

Oh the horror! :sarcasm:

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. Taxpayer Paid Training Camp

That is what Iraq has become. Thanks GOP.

[dogday]

12. What Not Pakistan?

Pakistan is well known for their training camps and that is probably where Bin Laden is.... Good thing we are going to build 14 bases in Iraq so when can handle all those terrorist....

[intheflow]

15. Reuters!

I almost didn't read this because I didn't recognize the news source.

Great post. Like we didn't know it already, but nice to see the CM beginning to notice. Nominated.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

16. Here's how they will spin it (mark my words):

"We were right to go into Iraq, because see? It IS the world's biggest training camp for terrorists. We have to stay and finish the job."

And the uninformed will nod gravely, lacking long-term memories for anything in the larger world except sports scores and celebrity bios. Not having remembered (or noticed) that accusations about Iraq and 9/11 were lies, they will go around telling their neighbors, "We were right to go into Iraq, because see? It IS the world's biggest training camp for terrorists. We have to stay and finish the job."

[MadisonProgressive]

19. Thanks Dubya! , er , I mean Dummy!

[underpants]

20. COMPLETE BULLS**T!- No one trains terrorists better than the US of A

DAMMIT!

[Roland99]

21. But...but...but..."America and the world are safer with Saddam in jail."

"We're winning"

"We're making really good progress"

"Freedom is on the march"

"Let freedom reign"

"They've been liberated"

The insurgency is in its "last throes"



How much longer will this administration remain in denial and how much longer will the United States of Apathetica put up with their shit?!

[BamaBecky]

22. Chaney said....not to worry.....we are getting the upper hand!! What's

with you? Don't you BELIEVE Dick Chaney?
:sarcasm:

[Felix Mala]

23. But we invaded Iraq to contain terrorism... This would seem to be

the opposite result and... Wait! Wait! What am I thinking? I'll just shut my brain down, confident that GW is doing a fine job...

[FizzFuzz]

25. the warlovers won't even see the cause and effect nature of this. n/t

[LittleClarkie]

28. They will spin it

that we have to keep fighting in Iraq so that the terrorists will be centralized there, and not bother the rest of the Middle East.

[Festivito]

30. ..after they wring their hands in glee seeing war profits for decades.

They'll keep quiet, silent, we're taking no quiestions, haven't talked to the president about every article ever written.

Then, when the shiites et al hit the fan around the world, they'll let us know we have to invade more countries to fught the war on terra.

All the while they take their small unfulfilled lives to bigger banks to associate with people they never really like.

[Blue Belle]

31. They'll spin this with a little creative writing...

That is what they do best... just watch:

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/rewrite.html

[sharman]

32. Who needs training camps in the desert

when Bush provides such excellent field experience? The War in Iraq: a hands-on internship program for Al Qaeda

[sharman]

33. Who needs training camps in the desert

when Bush provides such excellent field experience? The War in Iraq: a hands-on internship program for Al Qaeda

[Broken_Hero]

34. Well, it figures...

If we mess with them long enough, they will get better and recruit more troops to their cause. The WH is trying to spin that the insurgency is in its last throes, and that they can't fight back well and my thought is this...well, they may not be fighting back well, but they are strapping bombs to themselves and blowing people away, how dedicated is that? In order to stop this insurgency, you will have to wipe them all out, and taht is impossible. The russians tried that in Afghanistan, and we tried it in Vietnam, and now we are trying it again in Iraq, and we are failing to achieve, what GWB wanted, control of the country. Its just sad that our troops are over there, getting wasted for a lie....later, Don.

[PATRICK]

36. Wow, what Intel

They must have gone into DU archives to make sense of the current catastrophe.
2+2=4 after all. Who woulda thunk?