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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:29 PM
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Shelters Upset PETA Killed Animals Instead Of Adopting Out
NORFOLK, Va. -- Two North Carolina counties have stopped turning over shelter animals to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

Officials said they were surprised to learn the group euthanized cats and dogs instead of trying to find them homes. They said they believed the animals were being taken for evaluation, and were being adopted out -- and that euthanasia would be only a last resort.

PETA said unfortunately, even some healthy animals may be euthanized if PETA cannot find them homes. Documents show PETA euthanized about 6,100 domestic animals from 2001-2003.

Two PETA employees have been charged with animal cruelty for dumping dead animals they collected in eastern North Carolina into a shopping center's garbage bins.

http://www.10news.com/news/4639810/detail.html?rss=sand&psp=news

Get it through your head....There is no such thing as a no-kill shelter. There are only shelters that let others do their killing.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:36 PM
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1. True! It is simply impossible to save every animal
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:39 PM
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3. I don't totally disagree with you, but then DON"T takae them from
the shelter! Sounds to me like they were taken based on false pretenses!
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:18 PM
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10. PETA is saying they took animals they knew would have to be euthanized
because their methods of euthanasia are more humane than those used by the North Carolina shelters.

http://www.helpinganimals.com/f-nc.asp

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PETA has provided euthanasia services to various counties in that state to prevent animals from being shot with a .22 behind a shed or gassed in windowless metal boxes—both practices that were carried out until PETA volunteered to provide a painless death for the animals, free of charge. We believe that euthanasia is a kindness for dogs and cats who are born into a world that doesn’t want them, has not cared for them, and ultimately has abandoned them to be disposed of.

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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:19 PM
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12. Thank You for posting that
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:21 PM
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13. This article is just another hit piece on PETA
They are just about the most 'humane' organization I have ever worked with.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:00 PM
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6. I worked at a shelter once
and people would drop off animals in the dark of night so as not to pay the paltry $15 drop off charge. Every morning there would be skinny, sad, abused and scared dogs tied to the gate or boxes of unweaned kittens sitting next to the door. We took them in but with three to a cage that was it.. we built as many outdoor pens as we could fit on the tiny piece of ground the county alloted. After all our houses were full of "extras" we pled with local community leaders, schools and churches to help us out, but received the cold shoulder. We ended up having to put many healthy, loving dogs to sleep. I am not defending PETA or their tactics but to say that a no kill shelter is possible just anywhere is blatantly wrong. Without community support such an endeavor just implodes, and nobody cares until these unwanted dogs or cats become a nuisance.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:37 PM
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2. OH MAN! Stuff a raw hamburger down PETA's throat!!!
After all the insane crap they've been pushing over the years, the truth comes out!

I've been a volunteer for a dog rescue group for about 5 years, and I can tell you, of the thousands of dogs that we've taken into rescue, from shelters, puppy mills, and owner turnins, 2 have been euthanized, and in both cases, it was because the dogs had been through several month of therapy, and we couldn't deter them from vishiously biting people.

To hear this about PETA is beyond disgusting to me!
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:24 PM
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15. Why don't I believe your story?
At any rate, perhaps you should take the time to learn something about
PETA. You are bashing a good organization on the basis of one
extremely biased hit piece.
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:28 PM
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17. Well, if you have such a problem with
the sad fact that unwanted animals sometimes have to be euthanized, give out your address and all the shelters in the country can start sending them your way.

And if you were so concerned about all animals, and not just the cute ones, you wouldn't be shoving a raw hamburger down anyone's throats.

The screams of "PETA's a hypocrite!" coming from meat-eaters sounds to me more like, "See! They're just as rotten as we are!"
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:29 PM
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18. dupe
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 03:33 PM by livinginphotographs
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:54 PM
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4. There are such things as no-kill shelters.
I know a woman who spends much of her time and money running an animal rescue out of her home, and who would never euthanize an animal unless it were critically injured or irretrievably vicious. She even keeps animals that she openly says she will never adopt out, because they've been injured or disfigured, and she wants to insure they get treated well.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:10 PM
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7. That is not the same as a large shelter
When you're full and all of your sponsors are full
you must do something with the animals that keep flooding in.
It is impossible to save them all.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:56 PM
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5. It seems a lot of people are ready to condemn PETA . .
. . for being "cruel" to animals.

Doesn't it seem a little strange that "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" is actually out to be inhumane to animals? Talk about your man bites dog story.

In case anyone's interested, here's PETA's response to these allegations.

http://www.helpinganimals.com/f-nc.asp

I'm open to evidence that disputes PETA's story but so-far all I've seen is evidence that they disposed of euthanized animals in shopping mall dumpsters.

That sounds more like a (questionably ethical) money saving activity. I can't see how the dead dogs and cats - that were euthanized humanely by PETA rather than shot with a 22 as was happening before PETA got involved - cared much one way or the other.

So, where is all the hatred for PETA coming from? Am I missing something here?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:12 PM
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8. A lot of hatred appears to come from the far right. For example,
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 02:13 PM by Karmadillo
the Center for Consumer Freedom seems to positively despise PETA. Of course, they also appear to despise lots of other people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the Guest Choice Network) is a group which represents the interests of the food, alcohol and tobacco industries, and claims to represent consumer interests. It runs media campaigns and gives out annual "Nanny Awards" to "those groups and individuals who would 'protect us from ourselves.'" CCF was created by public affairs firm Berman and Company.

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CCF opposes industry critical scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups such as

Mothers Against Drunk Driving
the Alliance of American Insurers;
the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons;
the American Medical Association;
the Arthritis Foundation;
the Consumer Federation of America;
New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani;
the Harvard School of Public Health;
the Marin Institute for the Prevention of Alcohol and Other Drug Problems;
the National Association of High School Principals;
the National Safety Council;
the National Transportation Safety Board;
the Office of Highway Safety for the state of Georgia;
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA);
Ralph Nader's group, Public Citizen;
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC);
and the U.S. Department of Transportation.

In a 1999 interview with the Chain Leader, a trade publication for restaurant chains, Berman said that he attacks activists more aggressively than other lobbyists. "We always have a knife in our teeth," he said. Since activists "drive consumer behavior on meat, alcohol, fat, sugar, tobacco and caffeine," his strategy is "to shoot the messenger. ... We've got to attack their credibility as spokespersons."

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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:18 PM
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11. PETA defends the rights of animals, republicans despise that
Republicans feel they have the right to treat animals
in any manner they wish. Be it the exploitation of chickens and hogs for profit, or the beating and caging of the family pet.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:15 PM
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9. Some people have an irrational animosity toward PETA
Both amusing and sad.
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:22 PM
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14. Thank you for posting that
The original post only gives one side of the story, and I am not going to listen to anyone who accuses PETA of cruelty to animals if they don't go to the link you posted to read PETA's side of the story first.

There are too many people who just want to find someway to accuse PETA of hypocrisy, but do not really understand the situation.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:21 PM
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16. There's only one way we'll solve the issue of pets being euthanized
Neuter your own pets. Don't let them breed first. For heaven's sake, people, it's not everyone else's responsibility...neuter your own before you cast aspersions on those who have the horrible job of having to euthanize healthy animals in shelters.

I'm not even commenting on the PETA story - I've heard both the PETA and anti-PETA version of it and have my own opinion - but I do have to put in my plug for people to PLEASE spay and neuter your own pets and don't add to the population problem.

I've volunteered in shelters. There is nothing worse to me than having to take an animal down the hall for euthanasia. Even though most shelters do it as humanely as possible, you still cry, every single time. But unless you're Bill Gates, you can't save every one. The solution is to deal with the rampant overpopulation; every pet should be considered valuable because they aren't a dime a dozen. People don't throw away that which they value. The problem is that dogs and cats are so common as to be considered disposable. Reduce the supply and you'll increase the perceived value.
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