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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:42 AM
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Kristen Breitweiser hits Karl dead on.....
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 08:48 AM by Roxy66
Great post by Kristen on Huffington Post.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/featuredposts.html#a003103

"For the record Karl, does Iraq have any connection to the 9/11 attacks? Because, you and your friends with your collective “understanding of 9/11” seem to be contradicting yourselves about the Iraq-9/11 connection, too. First, we were told that we went to war with Iraq because it was linked to the 9/11 attacks. Then, your rationale was changed to "Iraq has WMD". Then you told us that we needed to invade Iraq because Saddam was a "bad man". And now it turns out that we are in Iraq to bring them "democracy."

snip...

"Karl, you say you “understand” 9/11. Then why did you and your friends so vehemently oppose the creation of a 9/11 Independent Commission? Once the commission was established, why did you refuse to properly fund the Commission by allotting it only a $3 million budget? Why did you refuse to allow access to documents and witnesses for the 9/11 Commissioners? Why did we have to fight so hard for an extension when the Commissioners told us that they needed more time due to your footdragging and stonewalling? Why didn't you want to cooperate so that all Americans could “understand” what happened on 9/11"
snip...

"It was only after your invasion of Iraq, that Bin Laden's goals were met. Because of your war in Iraq two things happened that helped Bin Laden and the terrorists: al Qaeda recruitment soared and the United States is now alienated from and hated by the rest of the world. In effect, what Bin Laden could not achieve by murdering my husband and 3,000 others on 9/11, you handed to him on a silver platter with your invasion of Iraq - a country that had nothing to do with 9/11."

I just love that lady!


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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:46 AM
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1. great read
dead on for real
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:49 AM
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4. Wow...you have a very creepy pic there
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:22 AM
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21. She is one amazing person.
Wow-I really admire her passion. :patriot:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:48 AM
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2. WOW! Go Kristen! And will this ever make it into MSM? I think not.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:33 AM
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26. You can help it get out in spite of msms if you pass it
along every which way you can.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:38 PM
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43. Thanks for the recommendation. I have already. :) n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:26 AM
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41. Here are soundbites for the one-dimensional Corporate Media;
"Karl, are you really sure that you understand 9/11?"

"Karl: What are your motives when it comes to 9/11?"

This article is in fact the very best and most authoritative response to Rove.

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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:22 PM
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45. Wow! Great Read is right! You go grrrrlll! Love the reference to Rove as
the "Sensei"....

She nailed it to the wall...a must read...I'm going to pass this along to friends and family....

:woohoo: :applause:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:00 AM
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54. She was a guest on Hardball tonight and said the same things.
I'm not saying that Hardball has half the country watching, but it has more viewers than we have (I think!).

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:01 AM
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56. Thanks for letting me know. They have her interview at
Dembloggers.com. They also have Lorie Van Auken on Countdown!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:49 AM
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3. great response
and, she has some good ammo to fire back at Rove in a LTTE.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:50 AM
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5. Kick and recommended! n/t
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:51 AM
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6. it's called truth to power --- Our corp. media would never ask the obvious
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:51 AM
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7. OUch....
The truth must really smart for the neo-cons and she tells it like it is
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:54 AM
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8. she gave him a real red ass!
She rocks!!! :kick:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:54 AM
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9. Excellent!
I am so glad she and others are speaking out about Rove's dispicable comments. I hope someone also brings up bush's 'hit the trifecta' comment in relation to 9/11.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:54 AM
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10. A powerful lady.
I think the democratic leadership should be highlighting her response to Karl's nonsense. It doesn't get any better than that.
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:55 AM
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11. Some very interesting comments. I think you can read much
into what she is saying. MSM will never pick this up.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:57 AM
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12. Nice article, totally agree
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:57 AM
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13.  so many great articles - so little time!
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:58 AM
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14. This should be a form letter....
for all of us to send as a letter to the editor of as many newspapers as possible
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Ladyinblack Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:00 AM
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15. Logical true and well written
Logical true well written and a must read. I wish there were some way to get it in the main media.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:00 AM
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16. She should run for public office...
as a Democrat!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:02 AM
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17. And take that ROVER! How does truth feel when it slaps you in the face?
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:03 AM
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18. That is a nice silver platter that
she handed him his ass on. Great article!!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:05 AM
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19. Every single words is true
Only thing, 911 no one can get any proof that is why the World also
declared that the attack on Afghanistan Illegal.


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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:06 AM
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20. Impressive Bullseye! n/t
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:22 AM
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22. Nail, meet hammer.........
she hit the nail right on the head there. Everything that has come out of KKKarl's porcine mouth was soundly rebuked in that letter.

The bush administration's "understanding" of 9/11 doesn't jibe with reality and facts. Of course, when have the facts ever interfered in the GOP's plans. They make up the "facts" as they go along to suit their policy.

bush's "grudge" war with Iraq has made this country more susceptible to terrorism that ever before. Thanks, junior! :grr:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:25 AM
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23. The Talking Points Are Out and they say.....
connect 9-11 and Iraq anytime you can.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:26 AM
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24. This is one great Republican lady.
She is very courageous.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:31 AM
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25. looks like KKKKarl has been arrested!!!!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:40 AM
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27. It is amazing how much of this I had forgotten...this soon.... Bravo! n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:42 AM
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29. Know something...she has written some talking points. Dems are not
organized as a war machine like the cabal...everybody does their part here. Thank you to all the brilliant, sincere, dedicated, worried and determined citizens.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:42 AM
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28. Wow! Very powerful!
Excellent piece. A good one to send along to others. Thanks for posting.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:53 AM
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30. *That's* the type of take the MSM should be taking with this admin
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:56 AM
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31. I have so much respect for this lady
perfect hit on Karl Rove and his lies. Karl Rove is as nasty as they come and the only way to deal with his remarks are to hit him in between the eyes.
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:57 AM
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32. Thanks and emailed out to all my contacts.
:toast:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:07 AM
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33. Kristen Breitweiser is articulate,
informed, and an able spokesperson. Isn't it interesting that the corporate whores never focused on putting a personal face on 9/11? How many Americans even now know one name of a victim?

If a tragedy of such magnitude had happened on a Dem's watch and Kristen Breitweiser was an aggrieved widow wanting to get her story out, you can bet the whores would be chomping at the bit to introduce her to America.

One of the great untold stories of 9/11 is why the BFEE and whores have kept the victims' families at arms' length, quickly arranged to pay them off as long as they promised not to sue, and showed them utter contempt by resisting their efforts to properly and meaningfully investigate all the circumstances surrounding that awful day.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:26 AM
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36. oh, they showed one widow
who never said anything. She was a pretty little blonde that looked very tragic (and was), but never said a word. They like their widows that way.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:16 AM
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34. What a lady. I say Rove really messed up by taking on
New Yorkers. They'll wipe the floor with him. I want to see Kristen on every show on TV; she speaks volumns about this subject and she really knows her stuff. Why the Dems don't have her in the spotlight is way beyond me - she should be at Howard Dean's side everywhere he goes. I love ya, Kristen.
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V Lee Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:20 AM
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35. Why don't more people get it?

If you look at everything Bush has done with the Iraq war, how can anyone support him and his neocon cohorts?

They're destroying the country, one piece at a time.


>> What's on Bill's mind? Political commentary with attitude and more at http://www.BillsBrain.com
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:47 AM
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37. kick
:kick: for Kristen!
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:59 AM
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38. High Kicks, EVERYONE!!!
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 11:04 AM by Raster
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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High-kicking donkeys aside, we can't let these bastards continue to use and abuse 9/11. It's time to call them on it. And thank the Deity(s) that family and friends of the 9/11 victims aren't just gonna lay down and take this SHIT! There wouldn't even be a 9/11 commission or report if not for their efforts. Ah, I said report. I meant "whitewash." My greatest hope is to see kkkarl rove, shrub and the neoCONs (emphasis on the "CON") stand trial for their illegal, immoral and nefarious deeds, of which there are many.
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:00 AM
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39. Superb.
Bless you, Kristin. :patriot:
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:12 AM
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40. The more you think about it...
...The rovemeister's right. Repigs did have a very different reaction to 9/11 than 'the rest of us'. All they wanted to do is to go bomb the shit out of everything and everybody that they could think of...with the result being the damndest, sorry-assed mess that this country's been in since Vietnam. Basically, they reacted like the goons OBL thought we were. The rest of us wanted to deal with it like thinking adults.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:36 PM
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42. With Rove continuing to milk 9/11 for political ends...
and all the other behavior from this administration with regards to 9/11, I have to say something a little controversial:

I'm not the only one (and I've talked to many, not all liberal) who have a suspicion that this White House is _somehow_ linked to the 9/11 tragedy and they've been vehemently trying to hide that. It's no wonder they will "fight to the death" over Bush being blamed for his murderous Iraq war... they know that if Bush and the gang goes down for that, their other crimes will also be investigated, including links to 9/11. They fear a Nuremburg-like trial.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but why does my gut keep telling me there's a circumstantial case for Bush administration involvement in 9/11? It just seems to add up that way, and it's quite scary.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:04 PM
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44. Truth is our most powerful weapon!
peace.
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DUBYASCREWEDUS Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:55 PM
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46. GOD BLESS THAT WOMAN!
I read somewhere that she and her husband were registered Republicans and had voted for the Moron in 2000. How tragic it took the death of her husband to realize the extent "God's Own Party" will go to justify their lies. Isn't it ironic that since Dumbya is almost in single digits for approval ratings that they decided to trot out KKKarl? The more he uses that serpent tongue the lower the idiot's approval ratings will go. In the meantime, way to go, Kristen!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:25 PM
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47. page one
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:36 PM
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48. Kickin'
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:44 PM
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49. A kick for Kristen and for the Dem leaders who need to wake up
and use this wonderful woman to speak out as only she can. Go, Kristen.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:37 PM
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50. Oh yeah, he understands 9/11 all right - I believe he was in the loop of
the LIHOP or MIHOP planning.

If you are still reluctant to consider the possibility that the Bush cartel arranged or deliberately allowed the 9/11 attacks for political gain, watch or listen to the historic David Ray Griffin Madison lecture. Audio and video files are available online for the 1 hr 20 min event as well as much else:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39690
Thread title: David Ray Griffin evidence Bush admin complicit in 9/11 - update & links
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:43 PM
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51. Gosh - I sure wish more people would make the news with the truth
about these thugs - you go girl!!!!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:53 PM
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52. Turd Blossom! Why'd your boss have to hold Sneer's hand at 9-11 hearing?
Huh? Why Karl? Could it be he's too stupid to lie well?

Then again, Smirk and Sneer weren't even under oath.

Traitors.

PS: Great post, Roxy66!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:55 PM
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53. Awesome!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 05:28 AM
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55. Good...
Damn fanatastic post,i couldn't have said it better myself, this lady is damn brillant, but of course, the RW will say its all elite left media bias, its like debating a tape machine...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 04:53 PM
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57. OK what are the right wing talking points on her?
I am sure they are ready with a smear on her. Does anyone know what they are so we can be ready with our LTTE? I just got an LTTE published in my local newspaper on a disgraceful editorial they did on Kerry's grades at Yale so I probably won't get another one in for a while. Damn!
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