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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:06 PM
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Words of Thomas Jefferson regarding the SCOTUS decision
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Emphasis mine...
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:08 PM
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1. I hear you brother, I hear you
And one thing that might come out of this POS is that enough people will finally wake up and smell the Plutocracy strong enough to make them realize what is going on, and then take action.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:13 PM
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2. He who is the enemy of this ruling
is my ally.
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:16 PM
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3. Insurgent
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 01:21 PM by warsager
I heard a very good point today on kpfk, a point which I have heard before but no one seems to speak about.

The definition of an insurgent is one who fights against their own government. The Iraqi's that are fighting the occupying US forces are NOT insurgents. This term is a *tool* of Bu$hCO to demonized the Iraqi's that are fighting against the colonization of their country by the US. No one should EVER use this word when referring to the resistance by Iraqi's. Same thing goes for terrorist in my opinion.

Insurgent
1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

NOW WE over here in the US, need to become insurgents, isn't it our "duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security."!!!??

Great post, I just wish more people cared.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:26 PM
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4. Don't dispair friend, more people just started caring
Look, some people are on the left, some people are on the right. Some own and love guns, some people hate them. This sort of division goes right down the line on a lot of issues. But everybody, on both sides of politics has property, and the vast majority are outraged by this POS decision. They're out there right now, getting pissed in a righeous bipartisan fashion. Give them a chance to figure out what to do, and you could be seeing a lot of insurgency in this country.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:27 PM
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5. If I must, so be it
I should be standing on the property of those whose property is being taken by a tyrannical government with weapon in hand in complete solidarity.

Were this my property, the government would have to kill me before they could take it to line the pockets of a paper fiction and the campaign coffers of greedy, self dealing, corrupt, slimeball politicians.
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:55 PM
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6. Did you read the post
About the majority of Americans think that the Iraqi prisoners have been treated "about right" or "better than they deserve"? It's like we are living in a fantasy land. People are so oblivious to the truth. It feels impossible to get people to know what's really happening, let alone care, AND then want to do something about it.

But I heard today that more and more Republicans are starting to ask for a timeline for pulling out of Iraq. Maybe the more people start to stand up, the more they will realize how Bu$hCO cares NOTHING about what Americans want, think, feel, or need.
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:57 PM
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10. We all should be
There should be an influx to New London.
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bohemianguy Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:18 PM
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7. this issue crosses all lines
It's amazing seeing the reaction in my neck of the woods to the abominable SC decision. A conservative Bush voter I work with is as outraged as I am. People I've talked with who before today have shown absolutely *zero* interest in politics and current events, told me today they're writing their senators and representatives about it (after looking up who they were, of course).

There's an opportunity here for politicians at all levels to gain a lot of political capital if they stand firm against and loudly denounce this property-stealing pro-corporate bullshit.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:43 PM
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8. As evidenced by DU
some on the left actually support this abominable ruling.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:51 PM
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9. This is just proof that the govt. takeover was a conspiracy over decades!!
They're all corrupt now, thanks to the corrupt Presidents that nominated them!!!
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:03 PM
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11. amen
bush v. gore is an abomination :patriot:
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