All we heard in the late 60's & early 70's is we can't just pull out of ..

[European Socialist]

Vietnam. The Commies will take over the world in domino fashion and the rest of the world won't respect us. We should do now what we should have done then--declare victory and go home.

[bunkerbuster1]

1. but we can acheive Peace with Honor!

Besides, the Preznit has himself a Secret Plan!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

2. We can't, you filthy Commie

We have to make sure 51,000 more Americans die before it will have been "worth the sacrifice."

[bryant69]

3. What woudl victory look like?

That's the question now. I mean what is victory supposed to encompass? How will we know when we have won victory?

Bryant
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[justinsb]

4. I hate to disagree, because I don't

The US should get out of Iraq, but just leaving - with the way things are would be very dangerous. Please see this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1881863

A pullout should involve negotiations with Iran, Syria, Turkey and all of the various groups in Iraq to make sure you don't leave Iraq with a burning fuse attached.

[European Socialist]

6. Leaving is dangerous....

but will it be less so 5 or 10 years down the road.

[justinsb]

7. I'm not saying to take 5-10 years

Just plan getting out better than * planned going in.

[European Socialist]

8. It's a mess-- it will be a mess...

And U.S. military presence makes the situation worse.

[spanone]

5. We now have a whole new generation of fools.