Hang on. Are the "insurgents" in their last throes or strong and active?

[Bouncy Ball]

Can anyone in the bush administration get their shit straight, or are there just too many fucking lies to keep straight?

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Iraqi insurgency is as active as six months ago and more foreign fighters are flowing in all the time, the top U.S. commander in the Middle East said Thursday, despite Vice President Dick Cheney's insistence that the insurgency was "in its last throes."
(snip)
Added Joe Lieberman, D-Conn.: "I fear that American public opinion is tipping away from this effort."

(Uh, why does he FEAR that? WTF?)

(snip)
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., told Rumsfeld he should quit. Rumsfeld said he had offered his resignation to President Bush twice, and the president had said no.

(So Chimpy McCokespoon holds a fucking gun to his head?)

(snip)
In the House hearing Thursday, Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri asked, "Why aren't the number and the lethality of the attacks decreasing?" He said he feared one of two things would happen with the prolonged war: "We're going to lose the American people or we're going to break the Army."

(BOTH of those things are going to happen and ARE happening. And breaking the Army is not such a good thing.)

All from http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/iraq/topstories/062305ccjrjccwNatRumsfeld.397597e7.html

And this brings me to a question that's been on my mind lately:

Why did the bush administration screw up the invasion of Iraq so badly? Yes, we all know it was immoral and illegal and we should have NEVER been attacking Iraq in the first place, but why did they fuck up so badly?

I mean, all I hear is how we have the greatest, best trained, most capable military on earth (or we did, anyway). So that part doesn't make sense.

Did bush et al fuck up Iraq on purpose? If so, what higher function does fucking it up serve?

Did they do it because they are incompetent boobs who couldn't pull off a successful kegger in a college dorm?

I tend to think it was fucked up very intentionally, I'm just trying to peel back the onion layers to get at the real why.

[ComerPerro]

1. Perpetual war

And, I really think they just don't give a shit how many American soldiers are killed over there. As long as it stays below an average of 5 per day, they will get a free pass and will never be held accountable.

This way, they can repeat their mantra of "we're at war" while still taking regular vacations.

[shraby]

2. I think you're absolutely correct...look

at how they've milked 9/11 for their own purposes.

[barb162]

3. I think a lot of it was subconcious...Bush wanted to finish off

Daddy's job from the Gulf War. Big Swinging Dick Syndrome. That explains Bush screwing with the data from the CIA and other sources. I think they also wanted to strike out at some Mideast country and it might as well be Iraq for the oil, Saddam, etc. They made up reasons (WMD) for the war where there were none. Also once things are as screwed up as they are, we have to stay in Iraq and then he's the War Prez and people typically don't vote against the war prez or the party of the war prez.

[immoderate]

4. They always want to kill the golden goose.

The Republican MO is short term gain -- liquidate. They squeeze the juice and sell the remains.

They are raking it in on mercenary operations and patronage appointments. They are looting the Iraq and the American treasury. When the party is over they will have accumulated enough to retire on and leave us with the clean up.

--IMM

[Bouncy Ball]

5. I've always felt the end goal was money.

And lots of it.

[barb162]

6. Well, I think Halliburton and all the defense contractors are really

doing well financially these days.

[immoderate]

7. Everyone in the administration is hooked into defense.

From the Carlyle group and its cronies, to the most insignificant agencies, they are populated with defense types.

Bush campaign manager, Joe Albaugh, is a security contractor in Iraq. The PNAC people are all in the arms establishment.

--IMM