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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:52 PM
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BBV - Bev makes ABC's insider media newsletter
From ABC's elite newsletter The Note:

Salon's Technology & Business section offers an investigative piece on the companies behind the new election technology and the flaws in their products that leave votes open to fraud:

" … according to Bev Harris, a writer who has spent more than a year investigating the shadowy world of the elections equipment industry, the replacement technologies the court cited may be worse — much worse — than the zany punch-card systems it finds so abhorrent. Specifically, Harris' research into Diebold, one of the largest providers of the new touch-screen systems, ought to give elections officials pause about mandating an all-electronic vote." LINK

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote.html

This is HUGE!! All the Washington insiders read The Note.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:11 AM
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1. Kablooey!!!
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:16 AM
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2. Thanks for the heads up.
Wonder if this is why the U.S. House of Representatives downloaded the memos today?

Bev
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:14 AM
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10. Bev, my father would call you "one classy dame"
I know there is a way to go just yet, but irregardless, you are an amazing woman,

and an inspiration to all Americans, especially to women, who are working against a powerful tide to maintain and protect what is great and unique about this country.

Wow.

Thanks for showing us what happens when hard work and dedication are put in motion, how to keep moving despite fear and some hefty opposition, and showing continued perseverence and dedication despite any and all odds.

What makes you all the more unique, (if I may be presumptuous here*) is you are doing this not to line your pocketbook (hahaha**), but because you care, and care enough to do something about it.

You are a brave, smart, lovely woman who believes in goodness, fairness and what is right for all Americans.

Heres to another positive role model and to continued progress and success!!

Cheers***

Connie
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 04:52 AM
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15. Just had a thought...
With the House downloading the memos, kinda gives us some breathing room, don't you think?

I mean, they 'work' for us...so, we have the right to see what they see, right? ;)
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:26 AM
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3. HOT DIGGITY-DAMN!!!! THIS IS GREAT!!!

:kick:THEIR GOOSE IS COOKED!!!!!:kick:

:bounce:WE'RE WINNING OUR FREEDOM!!:bounce:

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:28 AM
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4. Go Bev Harris!!***
Your hard work is paying off.

Thanks.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:31 AM
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5. Where is it on that page???
can't find it!

:kick:
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:40 AM
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6. hmmm...
i can't find it either
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:49 AM
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7. very near the bottom... second to last item
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:52 AM
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8. Kansas City Star - New voting technology questioned
http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/nation/6832155.htm\

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A growing national debate threatens to undermine efforts to replace older voting technology like the punch-card system that is at the heart of California's current election standoff.

In California, a panel of federal appellate judges has ruled that there are "inherent defects" in the older voting systems and that they could be overwhelmed by the large number of candidates on the state's recall ballot. Last week the court agreed to reconsider the case.

Among newer systems being implemented in California and elsewhere are touch-screen computer voting machines. But the computerized balloting that election officials long have touted as the wave of the future is under attack from scientists and computer experts who worry that computerized voting systems are vulnerable to tampering and manipulation that could easily go undetected.

"This could be something that compromises democracy," said David Dill, a Stanford University professor of computer science who researches security issues.


****

Is a good article but it has

"(EDITORS BEGIN OPTIONAL TRIM)"

Pretty soon after the beginning.. and well before it gets into the meat... the best stuff is at the end...

"(EDITORS BEGIN OPTIONAL TRIM)"

Presumably this is something that comes from the wire service and is usually deleted... Seems odd to me that editors need to be reminded to cut all the good bits out. I would have thought they were perfectly capable of doing that themselves..

*****

And there is also this column in the US News magazine...

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030929/misc/29voting.htm


"Hold on, say some computer security and election technology experts. That solution may be an easy target for election fraud. "Worst-case scenario: Someone tries to hack an election," says Kim Alexander, president of the California Voter Foundation, a nonpartisan, nonprofit group. Because most of these machines don't produce any physical record of the votes, "we wouldn't have any way to figure out the damage short of having another election." But the alternative that E-voting critics prefer, machines that electronically scan paper ballots, is often dismissed as impractical."
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:11 AM
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9. In Seattle a talk show
hosted by Mike Webb http://www.mikewebb.org/ picked up and passed on the Diebold memo's reference to King County "being famous" for using the no-password-needed feature of the vote tallying software. This is getting out there.
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DannyRed Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:15 AM
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11. Insider trading rampant at Diebold...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=dbd

This tells an interesting story that is discussed a bit over at

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/

Insiders selling hard into a rising stock price...

Does this count as a "thing that makes you go Hmmmmmm...."?
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:24 AM
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12. Interesting article. Roorda, in particular has been unloading
If I'm not mistaken, he's the guy who got his stock by selling Diebold his Procomp company, a voting machine company used in Brazil. Think he knows something about voting machines?

I notice he's sold about $30 million in stock, and he really started dumping it about 5 weeks ago.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:52 AM
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13. Just to keep the spirit up...
... there was a Constitutional referendum today in my state, and when I went to vote, I looked around for a manufacturer's mark on the voting machine. Couldn't find one, so when I exited the booth, I asked the poll worker if I could look for the manufacturer on the outside. She looked a bit confused, and I explained that was just trying to help a bit with some research on electronic voting machines, and that sort of relaxed her a bit.

Then, I said, "have you heard about Diebold?" The somewhat matronly woman pursed her lips, looked a bit sternly at me and said, "umm, we've heard." This is not something which has been in the local papers apart from one short article favoring Diebold's position about three or four weeks ago. When I said, "well, I've been trying to help with information on them a little bit," all the poll workers smiled and waved as I wished them a good evening and left.

Word's getting around, I think. Might be time for me to visit my election officials, even though we don't have Diebold machines installed here--perhaps it's time to sound the waters on their purchase preferences in the future....

Cheers.

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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 04:42 AM
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14. dumping the Diabold stocks, eh...
Watch out Wallstreet, your boy has just arrived...
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