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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:53 PM
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Katrina Van Den Heuvel on FIRE on Hardball!
Has anyone been watching this? Rove, DSM numerous times, the failure of this admin, all mentioned! :toast:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:54 PM
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1. I am - starting a sinking thread in GDP
glad you saw her too!

1/3 of the Iraqi Parliament wants us out!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:04 PM
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12. Well, FLDem5, I saw yours and now we can
sink together! :)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:27 PM
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19. More information on what she's actually saying
will keep you afloat.

Otherwise it's a "head's up" post, practical only for the 10 minutes or so she is appearing on the show.

It's good she's keeping DSM out there, it will likely take months before we can build enough steam for investigations.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:55 PM
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2. She's awesome!
She nailed every point. :toast:
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Mark Williams Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:57 PM
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3. Video Soon
I'm working on getting the video online over at DEMbloggers.com
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:59 PM
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5. Thank you for doing this for all of us who will not watch this made
up news...but once in a while something good is said and I for one love to see it..THANK YOU
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:43 PM
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15. Thanks, she was Awesome
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:51 PM
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17. thank you - I missed it so can't wait!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:55 PM
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18. Thanks for doing this. I love Katrina, but cancelled most of my
cable and no longer get Hardball, which is usually ok with me.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:31 PM
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25. I cannot thank you enough for the coverage you provide
it is invaluable, imo, and I would be lost without it. THANK YOU! I hope to contribute soon to show my appreciation.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:58 PM
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4. she's great
Not only does she hit her points, but she isn't loud and shrieking when she speaks. I've seen her on other shows with some really rude bastards, and she always keeps her cool. A very credible, calm spokesperson.
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Mark Williams Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:46 PM
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16. Video Link
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:53 PM
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22. A thanks to you Mark W. for the link and a kick for Katrina.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:02 PM
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23. Wow - that was spectacular! Thank you for this - I don't have cable
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 11:10 PM by Nothing Without Hope
The GOP spokesperson sure looked like the lying fool he was - hope the publlic realized it.

I was struck by the fact that they ALLOWED her to have a full say, even when she interrupted her opponent when he blatantly lied about Kay's statements. (Saying "Kay said that Saddam was even more of a threat than we thought" - but they used to let them get away with whoppers like this.) She was treated respectfully by the moderator. That is NEW and encouraging.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:59 PM
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6. She got the last word Yeah!
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:00 PM
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7. That was great except
I only saw the last 2 mins. Does it air again?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:01 PM
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9. Tonight it airs again at 10:00 central time
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:00 PM
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8. omigod!
You can tell Matthews is back next week - "The Hardball Church Tour"???? WTF????
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:31 PM
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20. in my area they're playiing commercials for a Christian Retirement
center, where you can relax with those whose faith you share

it's got a 500 seat 'auditorium', where fellow superstitionists can wallow in their ignorance

it's called the Riviera, after the famous casino
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:03 PM
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10. listen..... we HAVE to pat the corpoMedia on the head
When they allow GOOD STUFF to hit the airways!
Please let them know you're watching and you like what you see!

hardball@msnbc.com
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:07 PM
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13. I so agree! Like Kristina said, it's slowly leaking out-
the continual lies, DSM, the grim shape that Iraq is in, etc. - the media is waking up finally and should be applauded!
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:26 AM
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30. also BCC to feedback@msnbc.com
the people reading the Hardball email may not pass it on to their real bosses

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:04 PM
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11. Kristina Was Superb...
Yet she doesn't say the "L" word. What is it that Democrats can't say "LIE"...say it early and often...cause that's what happened. We weren't just decieved or misled...we were LIED to. I'm waiting for a Democrat with stones not only to use this word but regularly and over and over...and the rest of us should as well. If Democrats are "traitors"...surely Repugnicans are "LIARS"...and they are and we've got the goods. Let's start saying it.

The Quackly standard hack was so unprepared it wasn't even close. Kritina mentions the 98-0 vote to go into Afghanistan (wasn't Welstone one of those who abstained?) and all we could get out of this hack about who was a traitor was the limp "Move-On" garbage. Of course this doofus doesn't realize Move-On took no position on the invasion until the invasion, not before.

Even she looked restrained. Maybe it's having Pete Williams rather than Tweety...but she was very measured. Not sure if I'm liking this strategy.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:15 PM
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14. Outstanding!!
I had the sound turned down so that I could listen to Randi (I'm on the west coast), but when I saw your thread I rewound. WOW!!! This is the best I have ever seen her speak, she mopped the floor with Mr. talking points:)

HOMERUN!!!!!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:40 PM
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28. HOME F*CK*NG RUN ,AND THANKS Mark Williams...NT
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:44 PM
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21. Watching it again
This woman is outstanding! She is fearless...I love how she brought up the DSM.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:12 PM
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24. If I were writing *ush's speech...
"Yeah, I lied. What are you going to do about it? Impeach me?"

"Wait a minute... Did I say that out loud? Uh - Oh!"
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:36 PM
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26. She was marvelous
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 11:40 PM by Jack Rabbit
Mr. Hayes' performance left a lot to be desired. He mentioned several times that "Saddam was a threat." However, since Saddam had no weapons nor working ties to al Qaida, I fail to see how he was a threat or how, in the Spring of 2003, Iraq fit into the global war on terrorism.

Iraq was never anything more than an oil-rich nation the neoconservatives coveted as a colony, a place that had, as said Mr. Rumsfeld, better targets than Afghanistan.

There was never a good reason for invading Iraq. The reasons given were not only all lies, they were all deliberate lies. It is long past time for people like Stephen Hayes to stop trying to cover the regime's big ass.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:39 PM
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27. Thanks for the video Dembloggers
Love the site. It helps me keep up with appearances so I don't have to myself. The guy just said that about why we're in Iraq because everybody wants to leave Iraq now! Even republicans are pressuring Bush to have a time table! He knows they can't leave yet beacause of the oil pipeline! That Stephen guy is a jerk! Do these people really believe their shit? They all sound the same to me! The Katrina lady did a wonderful job.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:26 AM
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29. I wish MSNBC would stop trying to be Fox News
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 12:41 AM by oxbow
I told them straight that I'm not going to be watching this Church Tour crap. I want news from my news organization, not pandering and talking points propaganda.

It's been so refreshing to have Chris Matthews out of there. I can watch David Gregory and Keith O and not have to deal with the lies and disinfo for a couple of hours.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:53 AM
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31. LONG LIVE KATRINA!
She is really good!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:38 AM
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32. She's back on now.4:40 est MSNBC
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:51 AM
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33. Damn she is good....and FWIW... I think I am in love.... *LOL
Of course in bizarro universe if she were my wife...something tells me I would never win a single argument. *LOL.

Oh well... it would be worth it.


MZr7
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:56 AM
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34. She KICKED ASS BIG TIME..... LUVED IT
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