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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:14 PM
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I believe Tom Cruise is a Delusional member of a Sci-Fi Cult!
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 09:17 PM by Sandpiper
Who's about as well versed in psychiatry and pharmacology as your neighborhood garbage collector.

The reason Tom doesn't trust psychiatry is because $cientology has told him the truth about mental disorders and chemical imbalances.

They're the result of Engrams, placed here on earth (aka Teegeeack) by the machinations of the evil galactic overlord Xenu.

For many thousands of dollars, these great mysteries can be known to you too.




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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:15 PM
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1. Your pulling my leg.
:)
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BMG Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:50 PM
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16. Haha...
Evil overlord Xenu....

Star Wars meets religion.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:17 PM
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2. Look at the $¢i€nto£ogi$t$ long enough and
they make the religious right nuts look good! :crazy:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:17 PM
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3. Nope, that's what they believe
Tom's been drinking the Scientology kool-aid for a long time now. Hell, should we start referring to him as Preacher Tom?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:17 PM
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4. AMEN to that brother....
Poor deluded mind controlled marginally talented overexposed closeted scientologist freakazoid
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:18 PM
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5. So....
HE makes movies. I like to see him in movies. As long as he doesn't make a bizarre, anti semitic fetish movie about the crucifixion then I couldn't care less what his religion is.

I don't know if I have ever met a scientologist and they have never raised an army to conquer non scientologists.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:20 PM
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6. Operation Clambake
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:22 PM
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7. I don't care what his personal beliefs are, but I think it's wrong ...
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 09:30 PM by BattyDem

that he's using his celebrity status to discourage people from taking medication and/or seeking psychiatric help. We all know this country is over-medicated, but there are also plenty of people who DO need medication and therapy - he has no business telling them to stop treatment!

As I said in another thread ...
Does anyone else think there's going to be at least one tragedy as a result of his rantings? You know what I mean ... a woman who's suffering from post-partum depression, yet refuses to get help because drugs and therapy are "bad" - then she ends up killing her baby; or a teen who stops taking an antidepressant and ends up killing himself. :-(



edited for clarity


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readermostly Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:51 PM
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18. I agree. He's been one of my favorites for years, but he's getting
over the top. It's great that he's comfortable in his beliefs, but they are only his opinion. I'd just like for him to stick to making good movies. I don't care about his personal or religious life.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:22 PM
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8. Narcissists don't like therapy...
"The essential feature of the narcissistic personality disorder is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy (DSM-IV™, 1994, p. 658). Gunderson, et.al, (Livesly, ed., 1995, p. 208) notes that the grandiosity may not be overt or may involve arrogant and haughty behavior....

Individuals with NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) may have trouble entering treatment because they experience needing help as demeaning and unacceptable. However, if they are in a severe enough crisis they may well seek therapy to retrieve their feelings of confidence, a sense of easy superiority, and the capacity to sustain themselves with self-glorifying fantasies. Their view of themselves, their past, their current situation, and what they need from treatment will all be distorted by their need for self-aggrandizement. They will resist reality-based feedback and may flee the treatment setting if they are not sufficiently affirmed and comforted with an inflated view of themselves. It may be necessary to cooperate in the narcissistic need for sustenance to develop a therapeutic relationship. However, the return to comfort for individuals with NPD may be all that they are seeking and they will leave treatment anyway. It becomes an assessment and treatment challenge to connect well enough with these individuals to allow for realistic feedback and the development of more adaptive behaviors."

http://www.toad.net/~arcturus/dd/ddhome.htm
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:05 PM
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9. ...
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:12 PM
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10. Ever hear of a false dichotomy?
Yes, you can be against Scientology and the poisoning of millions of children with Ritalin. There is no contradiction here.

Use of psychotropics designed to combat depression has more than doubled in the 20-odd years since the introduction of SSRIs.

Are people happier? Has the suicide rate declined? Has there been any benefit across the board (except to the drug companies)?


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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:23 PM
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11. There have been a lot of people on this board
that credit SSRIs with helping them substantially.

There will always be depressed people and not everyone seeks help.

And what works for one doesn't work for everyone.

I think it's something for people to decide for themselves.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:26 PM
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12. There has been one less suicide...
thanks to SSRIs. I thank the gods they were around for me.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:31 PM
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13. What false dichotomy?
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 10:42 PM by Sandpiper
The basis for Tom Cruise's public pronouncements are the teachings of $cientology.

And if my choices are the mental health paradigm of modern psychiatry vs. the teachings of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, I think I know which one I'll choose.

Please don't try to pretend that Tom Cruise is doing something other than shilling for $cientology and the pseudo-scientific ideas of its founder.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:40 PM
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14. Don't confuse what Cruise says with the idea that there is abuse of psycho
tropics. That is NOT what he said.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:45 PM
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15. Exactly
Cruise's position is: pyschotropic drugs are bad, because I know things that you don't know (read: Scientology).



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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:50 PM
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17. Once I started preaching on a street corner not to drink milk...
...because all cows are the children of the evil emperor of the galaxy, Zorton V.

I got put in a mental institution. But Katie Holmes agreed to date me for a few months, so it wasn't a total loss.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:53 PM
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19. *snort*
:rofl:
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:07 PM
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20. No shit...
...nubnuv-tedgeek...my planet needs me.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:22 PM
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21. Just because he's a Scientologist!!??
I think you have a good case.
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