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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:09 AM
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Which of the following is desicration of the flag
Robbie the Rightwing Superpatriot: Driving around in his flag covered Hummer, each of his 2.5 children and his lovely wife decked out in Flag wear-a skirt for the lady of course. Flag cooler in the back, with the flag picnic set ready for a fun day at the country club. Tattered flags, of course, flying proudly from the 5 antenae on the Hummer, as if a diplomat is inside.

Louie the Leftwing Freedom Loving Patriot: Burns a flag to protest the actions of the country for which it stands.

Who is REALLY desicrating the flag? Lets see what the flag code says.

SEC. 2

(a) It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

(c) The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all weather flag is displayed.

SEC. 3
(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motor car, the staff should be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

SEC. 4
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

YOU MAKE THE CALL!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:16 AM
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1. Ugh, if the antidesecration amendment passes
there are going to be a whole lot of naked right wingers.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:19 AM
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2. Gee thanks for the lovely mental image. Bleech!
;(
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:42 AM
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3. Had my nails done, nail tech offered to put US flag....
on my big toe for ten dollars. I told her I didn't disrespect my flag that way. She said, who cares, this is the only crountry that mass produces their national flag in China, and panties are made out of the flag for public wear. No body respects YOUR flag. She was Asian. She was right.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 11:33 AM
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4. Smart nail tech!
And I agree she was 100% right!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 11:48 AM
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5. This is the bit that makes me most angry:
"The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever."

There are flags on some homes in my town and also over the police station, government buildings, firehouses, and a few schools.

The most common location(s) I see flags? Grocery stores, shopping malls, cinemas, car sales lots, hardware stores -- it is disgusting. The only place I see *super-sized* flags is at the mall - on staffs that must be 3 stories tall.

Flying the flag over a business is advertising - it is use and abuse of a symbol that is meaningful to many. No one should fight and die for an advertising logo - if that is its primary use these days.

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Also a friend came up with a perfect retort to the Rethug obsession with 'honoring the flag' -- Flag worship is idolatry, specifically forbidden by the ten commandments (I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other gods before me, thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing, thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.)

Republicans: Idol worshippers!

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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:26 PM
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7. I saw a flag by the mall this morning that was HUGE
It was on a little bitty pole so that the flag nearly scraped the ground. And your comment that "Flag worship is idolatry, specifically forbidden by the ten commandments" is excellent. I wonder what the FundiVangelical flagodouls (!) would think of your comment. I agree with you totally!!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:21 PM
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11. Thanks!
And to make the story even better my friend actually said this while she was on the phone to John Hostettler's office complaining about his insane comment that Democrats bash Christians. Score!

:kick:
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 11:58 AM
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6. Flag desecration?
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:33 PM
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8. This is what I call flag desecration



I wonder if this would be covered by any flag burning amendment?

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:00 PM
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9. Diapers? Diapers? That is offensive. Who makes 'em?
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 02:00 PM by IndyOp
Who do we write to, to complain? Seriously.

:puke:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:18 PM
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10. OMG! Scroll down patriotic bulldog page to find the cat!
I found this by Googling "Litte Patriot" & "diapers" - found link to a page about a patriotic bulldog (somehow...). Anyway...

Check out "Baby the Patriotic Bulldog" and scroll down the patriotic bulldog page to find the cat! <http://www.bullybaby.com/The_War.htm>

Even Delilah helped in this image showing that she's not afraid to go shopping and rebuild the American economy.

I.can.not. believe ANYONE was stupid enough to fall for 'go shopping'. I do *not* think this is a spoof page - I think it is for real.

:rofl: :puke: :rofl: :puke: :rofl: :puke: :rofl: :puke:
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:31 PM
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12. I don't think it's a spoof either.
It's defiantly over the top enough to be a joke but something about his man screams Bush voter.



I'm not sure who made the diapers but I first read about them after 9/11 when they were selling it at Walmart (of course).
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:36 PM
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13. Burning the flag!
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 02:37 PM by burrowowl
What are we going to do with all those dirty ragged flags now made in China!

(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

Edit: I so sick of the flag everywhere that I go to the post office to buy nice pretty stamps. If I have to use a flag stamp, I put it upside-down.
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