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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:00 PM
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Leftward Christian Soldiers
A new, well-organized religious group has emerged. And guess what: It actually supports Christian values.
By Rob Garver
Web Exclusive: 06.24.05


Deep in the heart of the reddest county in a red state, a new grass-roots movement is taking shape that means to break the religious right’s hold on the rhetoric of Christianity by developing a network of activists on the “Christian left” that can be mobilized to support progressive causes.

Founded by Jacksonville, Florida, businessman Patrick Mrotek, the Christian Alliance for Progress (CAP) says its purpose is the “reclaim” the Christian faith from the extreme religious right.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=9905
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:27 PM
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1. I have a lot of hope here
The mainstream Christians are a bit taken aback by the Dominionists. I believe there are more of those types, too. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we can get their "piety" out of the conversation?
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:08 PM
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2. Sounds about right, but...
I dont' think their are enough of the moderate christians left anymore. I know there is probabl a lot, but in my experience, the RW base, support of Bush is fanatical about their religion and their convictions/beliefs. I'm glad a group like this has started, and maybe people will start thinking for themselves, and not listening to what a bishop/priest has been telling them to "think". Trust me it happens...

I was raised Mormon, and i was really into it, went to church all the time, my whole family was pretty devout. I went to college after high school, and i planned on going on a 2 yr mission, which is almost required now by the Mormon philosphy it seems. But i didn't go, and when i came back home from college, i got made fun of basically, for not going. Well, i'm a tough man, and i took it with a grain of salt, cause most people who were ridiculing me didn't go either, so i shot back. And another thing, that got me thinking was the bishop got up to talk to the congregation, and gave us a ten minute lecture on Gay Marriage is bad, and is a sin, and etc etc. I sat there, and have gotten to know a good handful of Gays, from my college time...i sat there, knowing that this man was full of it. I sat there, and looked at everyone who was lapping it up, and i was like, what the hell is going on here?

Later that same sunday, i got into a discussion with my mother about it, i kept asking her, if god loves everyone, why does he look down on homosexuals. MOm replies, cause homosexuals practice sin...we traded banter for about five minutes, maybe less, and then i got her frustrated cause i was questioning her beliefs, and her belief that the bishp was infallible. I don't know, ist just a little take on it.

the fanatic christian base, isn't as fanatic as you would think. Alot of them look down on smoking, sex, and other things, most are freely open about as some might think, well, at least that is my experience with it, maybe i'm wrong, maybe so. But i'm glad there are sme moderate christians getting together, to make some noise...for once.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:11 PM
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3. damn my mistake, i got to start previewing...
my last post, last paragraph, i meant to say "the fanatic base isn't as fanatic as you would think, a lot of them look down on smoking, sex, drugs etc, and most are NOT as freely open as some might think"...thats what i meant to say, sorry, for the mistake, will try not to do that again.
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