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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:49 PM Original message |
As a former Republican, I feel I have the right to say this........ |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Completely agree. |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is why they hate labor laws and |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yep |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Good summation. And btw, the "rich" only and ever, protect themselves |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. As another former Republican, I agree completely |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. Michael Moore brought home that "fear" thing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. Darn, he's gone, and I didn't even get to say WTF??! |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Sorry about that |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Well, I did go there and was reading down the review a bit... |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. Superb post. NOMINATED!! |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. You bet, Eloriel... |
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Gay Green (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. Which proves FDR right: |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
92. More People Should Read-Up On FDR & 1st Lady Eleanor Roosevelt |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
125. It proves Bill Clinton right, too: "When people think, Democrats win." |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. Good post |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I've thought about it. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. "just convincing them all human beings have value" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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REACTIVATED IN CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
120. Request a DU Forum or Group... |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #120 |
134. The 'Republican Rehab' forum, like those bits on Randi Rhodes. |
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fryguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. the second group also thinks |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Exactly |
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Bleacher Creature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm nominating this too. |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. Thanks for your insight |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Fear of going to hell... |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. In my personal experience.......... |
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evilkumquat (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It Was Karl Marx Who Said It Best: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
122. true, but Herr Marx was around before TV |
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evilkumquat (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. So Did Bill Watterson... |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. Quite true. |
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dave502d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. Paranoid, ignorants ones our the ones that hurt us. n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. The rich business people are a minority and they cannot |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. How did you finally break the pattern? |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. This is how we do it..... |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
91. But isn't it fair to state that "Repubican Voters" suffer from the same |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
105. Yes, but they don't view it the same......... |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 02:11 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Also, sorry to say, most folks of any stripe |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
129. Here's the Major Difference: We are Open-Minded. They are Not. |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 02:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
110. This is exactly right--because in most folks |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think you are missing a large group |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Frankly I think the WH and the current GOPcongress leadership |
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DCSteve (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Read this book, everyone! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Welcome to DU Steve. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I have! |
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aaronnyc (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
121. That is one of my favorite political books |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. That would be my observation too. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. It has happened with such stunning speed |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Here is one of my favorite articles written |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. It IS a great article. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. My husband said the same thing. He said if this group feels betrayed |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. At different times different folks have felt |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. I agree with you to a point......... |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
96. Agreed! However it's hard work! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I think they fall into category #2. |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. They do fall into the second group. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. They hate indeed. The "Gay Marriage" issue is clue #1. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Interesting to note, however... that there has been a sizeable shift |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I don't mean call them ignorant to their faces........... |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
98. One argument I hear for those against gay marriage |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 02:27 AM Response to Reply #98 |
111. Yeah... |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 06:52 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. and don't forget |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. They got soft |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Really? |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. My father has never spoken out in public about minority groups, but |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Thats sad everyone deserves a dad they can respect so sorry n/t |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. It really isn't his fault........... |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
132. You're right. They wouldn't say it out loud. |
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zippy890 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. How to deal with ignorance |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. You can win some of the ignorants, I was an ignorant........ |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. I agree OKNancy |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
107. I agree and many of these people are a few paychecks away from |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. How does one ignite a cycle of hope? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Paint the VIsion |
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Algomas (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
101. I believe hope is more powerful than faith.. |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. Its a VERY fragile coalition |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. I agree........ |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
89. The fat cats desperately need for the |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. The second group is so naive that they never get the |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. When that's all you know and the people around you know it's quite easy |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
99. You're probably right, I guess |
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wookie294 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. I remember when Clinton was elected in 1992 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. What about religious fascists? |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. They fall into group two........ |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You might know better than I, but I think that's too generous. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. Not being snippy here, but which of the two types were you? |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I was ignorant......... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Travis.......... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. there is a little "html lookup table" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. We will just have to agree to disagree on aspects of economic |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. On a very quick (have to go in a minute) and basic level |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
63. How true! My mom is one of those people-FEAR what they don't know! |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
70. My summary: People who vote for Bush are evil or have their head up |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Your thinking about this in the wrong light Travis...... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #75 |
88. sadly this is where the blind adherence to the idea |
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BlueStateBlue (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
72. Completely agree! Selfish or Stupid... n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
79. I had a student tell me he believed something similar... |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
80. Converted...have you had any experiences |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. One of the best posts I've read... |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
82. The word you were looking for was... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. You prefer borrow and spend, I suppose... |
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newsguyatl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
85. couldn't agree with you more. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
93. Most pathetic people in America are poor Republicans. |
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LightningFlash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
95. It's simple....Republicans out of control are fascists. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
100. You Have Said It Well. Thanks. n/t |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
102. Thanks for the post. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
103. " I'm hoping by giving incite ..." |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
104. As an ex-Republican myself, I'd say that's very accurate. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #104 |
115. That good to hear. I see it but I'm not sure whether to believe it... |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
106. In a Way, It's No Different Than Gangsta Rap |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #106 |
117. My answer is simple............ |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. problem is... |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 07:18 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. Well, for me it would be......... |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
108. I see the same thing in my family |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
112. You must have had a Sociology class lately.......right on |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
114. Ah, yes - the "ignorance is bliss" , "Tell me what to think" crowd... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
119. If you're living in the poor house and voting Republican, you're 2 things |
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cilla4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
123. Great thread! |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
124. I think that's spot on. Most Republicans ( the non-rich) never go anywhere |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
126. Two Sub-Groupings |
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Shredr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
127. Nominated. You have perfectly described my entire extended family. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
131. Yep. I've been around them my whole life. |
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Dee625 (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
133. Another former Rep. who was thinking the same thing |
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sharman (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
135. Misplaced fear |
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SW FL Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
136. Pretty much sums it up based on my experience. n/t |
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