Secrets of the Kingdom: The Inside Story of the Saudi-U.S. Connection

[The2ndWheel]

http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=5884&schedID=356

On Saturday, June 25 at 6:00 pm

Description: Gerald Posner argues that Saudi Arabia's influence on American business and politics poses a large threat to U.S. security. In "Secrets of the Kingdom," Mr. Posner details the findings of his 2-year investigation of the House of Saud. He discusses the failure of the 9/11 Commission to recognize the ties that bind the Saudi and American governments including the preferential treatment they received days after the 2001 terrorist attacks. This event was hosted by Books & Books Bookstore in Coral Gables, Florida.

[EVDebs]

1. I wouldn't waste time on anything Posner writes. Try reading Amory Lovins

Winning the Oil Endgame
http://www.oilendgame.com/

We ALREADY KNOW we're connected to Saudi oil. This book shows how to get UNCONNECTED.

BTW,

"Amory Lovins is cofounder and CEO of Rocky Mountain Institute. A consultant experimental physicist educated at Harvard and Oxford (where he received an MA by virtue of being a don), he has advised the energy and other industries for over 30 years, as well as the U.S. Departments of Energy and Defense."

the US government is already aware of Lovin's work as DOE and DoD adviser capacity. Maybe someday they'll LISTEN to him !

[LiberalAndProud]

5. Great link!

why not posner?

[EVDebs]

11. His book on JFK assassination based on Priscilla Johnson McMillan

http://www.jfk-info.com/pjm-cia.htm

who has all the trademarks of a 'company' asset. Then there's the lady with the garage, Mrs. Ruth Paine. Her background is also suspect
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKpaine.htm

Posner relies upon the author of Marina and Lee extensively. Did you ever see Mae Brussel's work on the White Russians who testified against Oswald in the Warren Report ? This is how she discovered Operation Paperclip. Do some research on your own and Posner's work dissembles.

[CJCRANE]

2. I thought the redacted 28 pages

of the 9/11 Commission Report dealt with Saudi Arabia...?

[EVDebs]

13. ...and the non-disclosure of Ptech in the FAA/Intell, and Wargames on 9-11

like Vigilant Warrior, Vigilant Guardian, etc.
http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

Ptech
http://www.madcowprod.com/index45.html

The M$M will not report ANY of this information...you have to go to the web !

[LiberalAndProud]

3. How do the Saudi's benefit from this war?

Is Bush Osama's puppet? just asking

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. $60 a barrel

n/t

[BeHereNow]

18. And consider the corporate model...

the fewer entities holding the supply provide
the ability to set the price.
Talk about a merger?
China and SA.
The mother of all mergers, and the fact is,
those in the US playing field have no allegiance what-so-ever
to the Murikkkan sheeple. They will get theirs and to
HELL with the rest of us left in the smoking rubble of
the empire.
BHN

[oasis]

4. It's a good bet that many of the Iraqi insurgents are actually Saudis.

But the Bushies are beating the war drum to attack Syria or Iran.

[BeHereNow]

6. And the punch line will be...

When we learn that the Saudis have
already made their deal with China...
Just "thinking out loud."
BHN

[warsager]

7. Nice avatar ;)

I am currently reading House of Bush, House of Saud by Craig Unger. This book (so far) is extremely enlightening and detailed. I highly recommend this book to anyone who feels like learning enough about US policy to toss their cookies.

[BeHereNow]

8. Welcome to DU Warsager-

Great book- check out Kevin Phillips book too!
As far as tossing cookies, mine are all tossed.
Have been for some time now.
I hear ya,
BHN

[Disturbed]

9. How do the Saudi's benefit?

Iraiq oil is now in control of Amerika. The Saudi's are reaping high profits because Iraqi oil is not in competition with them, esp. now that Saddam cannot sell oil via the Euro.

[LiberalAndProud]

12. Can you tell me, what's the definition of collusion?

that word just popped into my head

[BeHereNow]

14. No, actually Iraq oil is controlled by US led

MULTI national corporations, which have very little to
do with you and me.
You have heard about the bid by China to buy Unocal
haven't you?
Unocal is at the heart and soul of all that has gone down
in the ME, going all the way back to Cheney and Azerbijian.
As long as the world's wealthiest, who by the way are
citizens of NO country as far as wealth goes, they just
pretend to represent our interests and continue spouting
phrases that indicate geographical boundaries, what ever
configuration provides them with maximum profits will
decide where the final chips fall.
If you think the Unocal Kabal will not sell the rest of us
out to China and SA, better think again.
Think Walmart on crack.
BHN

[LiberalAndProud]

15. How is it that Iraqis don't control the oil? -- so THIS is freedom. /nt

[BeHereNow]

16. WELL...they are BROWN people you know...

and frankly, they don't have sufficient holdings in the
World Bank or IMF.
Now move along citizen and find your work station in
the NWO.
BHN

[LiberalAndProud]

22. World Bank Holdings -- you mean the ones we stole? Those Holdings?

The ones that Haliburton is carrying away in duffel bags. You mean those holdings?

[BeHereNow]

23. If it wasn't nailed down...

they have it.
Yes, those assets.
ALL of them.
BHN

[warsager]

17. thx 4 the welcome

Is this the book you mean: American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush

[BeHereNow]

19. One and the same!

I have an autographed copy, right next to
my autographed copy of Will Pitt's book.
As you might imagine, they are among my prized
literature shelf books...
BHN

[warsager]

20. how it it different from

Craig Unger's book? And what is the book by Will Pitt?

[BeHereNow]

21. Phillips provides a more

generalized historical overview of WHO the Bush family is and their
involvement in what he terms, "policy favoritism."
It would be a great companion read to Unger's book, or
am I the only one who read several books at once? LOL.

Will Pitt's book is called, "The Greatest Sedition is Silence:
Four Years in America"
It is a great culmination of the hypocrisy of an administration
touting "Liberty and Justice" for all, all the while concentrating
on repressing those very aspect of our lives.
I highly recommend it!
Available through "Pluto Press."
http:www.plutobooks.com

BHN

[Disturbed]

24. Gw Bush shows Prince Bandar...

a document, which was labeled, "Not For Foreign Eyes" which outlined the illegal Invasion of Iraq before the IWR was presented to Congress, according to Bob Woodward. Ponder that for a few minutes.

[warsager]

25. Ur not the only one

that reads more than one book at a time! I think my brain is going into truth overload!

:puke:

[BeHereNow]

26. Mine is on permanent neon overload.

Remember those bug catcher lights?
They glowed purple and attracted bugs which
were promptly zapped upon their entry?
That is my brain.
That is also what happens when black holes
suck in matter.
SUPERNOVA!
To what purpose remains to be seen.
BHN

[warsager]

27. As I read the House of Bush House of Saud

I am naively shocked to learn that we are basically re-living almost the same exact thing. But this time the main differences are:

1. We went into this war practically unilaterally.
2. We went all the way into Bagdad.

There is a quote from Bush Sr. about the reason for NOT invading Baghdad:

While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.htm

Something to think about, huh??