Fighting terrorists over there.

[Disturbed]

This is a constant statement by Rethugs. Amerika is fighting terrorist in Iraq so that these terrorist won't be attacking on U.S. soil. Is it hard to counter that concept?

[CJCRANE]

1. Well,

the 9/11 hijackers lived in Germany before they lived in the US, so this tactic wouldn't have stopped them.

[Disturbed]

5. Are all of those "terrorists" incapable of getting into the U.S.?

It seems that what the Pres. and his cult are saying is that since Amerika is fighting them in Iraq that there is little chance that Amerika will be attacked. It's better for the Terrorists to be killing Amerikans over there instead of in Amerika. I am trying to form a logical concept about this. Hey, it is hard work.

[Postman]

2. It's illogical.

because the US military is Iraq, Al-Qaida has given up all attempts to attack US soil again?

That argument assumes every single terrorist is tied down in Iraq fighting the US military.

Do you think they're all in Iraq?

I don't.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

11. Makes about as much sense as "they hate us for our freedoms".

[teach1st]

3. Even if it were true...

..and it's not, this line of thinking seems to say it's fine to invade another country using lies as reasons and kill or create conditions which kill tens of thousands of that country's innocent citizens so we don't have to fight the terrorists here.

[wookie294]

4. The number of terror attacks outside Iraq tripled in 2004

If all the terrorists were "fooled" by Bush into traveling to Iraq, then how come terrorism tripled outside of Iraq?

WASHINGTON, April 26 (Reuters) - The U.S. count of major world terrorist attacks more than tripled in 2004, a rise that may revive debate on whether the Bush administration is winning the war on terrorism, congressional aides said on Tuesday.

The number of "significant" international terrorist attacks rose to about 650 last year from about 175 in 2003, according to congressional aides briefed on the numbers by U.S. State Department and intelligence officials on Monday.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26522556.htm

[Disturbed]

6. Yes, but Amerika has not been attacked.

This is what I am trying to figure out. The Rethugs keep saying that they are protecting Amerika by taking the fight directly to Amerika's enemies.
It isn't an easy stand to counter. Troops being killed in Iraq &/or Afghanistan is worth the price for no attacks on Amerikan soil. That seems to be the Rethug logic.

[Postman]

8. Iraq was not involved in 9/11 and was not exporting terrorism...

And while the first WTC attack occurred a little over a month into the Clinton Presidency, he immediately got on the ball and made "terrorism" a domestic priority.

Unlike Bush, who needed another "Pearl Harbor" to launch the PNAC plan for the world.

Remember, the 9/11 attackers were discovered before hand by the FBI but were told to more or less forget about them.

What does that tell you?

[bowens43]

9. Certainly it's an easy stand to counter

at least for people with a sense of honor or integrity.

Only the morally bankrupt believe that it is ok to start a war with a much weaker and poorer country, a country that presented no threat and did us no harm, for the purpose of fighting our enemies there to protect ourselves from harm. To destroy the lives of the innocent to lessen our risk is indefensible.

It is cowardly and immoral.

[CJCRANE]

10. "America has not been attacked"

That's a false argument as Al-Qaeda takes years to plan their attacks, so it's quite possible they might be lying low. But my guess is that they couldn't really top 9/11, that was their high-point (and only then because the hijackers were given a free pass, which wouldn't have happened under Gore).

Also, "fighting them over there" just makes it easier for anti-Americans to find US citizens to shoot at close to home, resulting in MORE American deaths and injuries.

[CJCRANE]

12. By the same logic

Clinton was also successful at preventing foreign terrorism on US soil, as after the first WTC attack there wasn't another one on his watch.

[annagull]

7. Fighting over there, we have created a terrorist university

check this out:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8330229/

Wednesday's third story on MSNBC-TV's 'Countdown' looked at the new "TU" or "Terrorist University." Classified intelligence reports say post-Saddam Iraq is serving as a real-life laboratory for the next generation of jihad, a curriculum so complete that it may be an even more effective training ground than Afghanistan was for al-Qaida. Car bombings are becoming so commonplace that today there were four alone in and around Baghdad on Wednesday and a record 700 bombings against U.S. forces in just the last month.

This form of urban combat may leap across the borders and even across the globe when these students graduate and decide to leave Iraq. Analysts at the CIA are calling it the "class of '05 problem." At the same time, the insurgency itself is getting more sophisticated, changing tactics and making them even more deadly with each new attack.