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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:22 PM
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Anyone have the Video clip of * saying Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?
I need it for a fundie exercism.
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:52 PM
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1. Did * really say that? I read that Powell said it, didn't know * had (n/t)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:54 PM
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2. when pressed bush has said it a couple times
cheney wont say it. he always says 9/11=saddam. it was said by bush at least once during the campaign. dont know where it is though. also was said by bush a handful of months after 9/11
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:54 PM
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3. Nope he said itl I've seen the clip and Randi Rhodes plays the clip
all the time.

"There's no evidence of a link beween Saddam Hussein and 9/11" is a rough quote.

Yes, Chimpy has said it. I've printed out stories where Condi and Rummy have said the same thing for my fundi exercism.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:57 PM
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4. Wasn't it during the Presidential Debates?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:00 PM
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6. I don't think so, but I could be wrong. I thought it was @ a news
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 09:16 PM by xultar
conference or something like that.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:00 PM
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5. here's a whole bunch of stuff ..hope it helps!!!
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 09:01 PM by flyarm
Sky News (London): "One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?"

Bush: "I can't make that claim.'
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/2003013...

Bush: No evidence Saddam Hussein involved in Nine-Eleven attacks
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1447698

Rice: U.S. Never Said Saddam Was Behind 9/11
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/983821/posts

Rumsfeld sees no link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-09-16-rums...

Wolfowitz: Iraq Was Not Involved In 9-11 Terrorist Attacks, No Ties To Al-Qaeda
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4372.ht...

Allies Find No Links Between Iraq, Al Qaeda

"What I'm asked is if I've seen any evidence of that. (Iraq links to al Qaeda) And the answer is: I haven't.” -British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who supports U.S. invasion & occupation of Iraq.]
http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-noqaeda4nov04,0,4538810.st...

British Intelligence agencies, MI6 and MI5

A dossier prepared by the two agencies “showed no discernible links between Iraq and al-Qaida,”
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.j...

Richard Kerr, a former deputy CIA director who lead an internal review of the CIA's prewar intelligence;

“the CIA has not found any proof of operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime.”
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?pid=8...

The White House’s own publication, A Decade of Defiance and Deception, makes no mention of Osama bin Laden or al Qaeda.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.htm...

The 2002 congressional joint intelligence committee’s report on the Sept. 11 attacks revealed that the Bush administration had no evidence to support its claim that Saddam’s government was supporting al-Qaeda.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030723-064812-949...

No proof links Iraq, al-Qaida, Powell says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/3909150

According to a "top secret British document", quoted by the BBC, "there is nothing but enmity between Iraq and Al Qaeda." The BBC said the leak came from intelligence officials upset that their work was being used to justify war." (quoted in Daily News, New York, 6 February 2003).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO303D.html

Three former Bush administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues have told National Journal that the prewar evidence tying al Qaeda to Iraq was tenuous, exaggerated, and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0803/080803nj2.htm

"…analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency have complained that senior administration officials have exaggerated the significance of some intelligence reports about Iraq, particularly about its possible links to terrorism, in order to strengthen their political argument for war, government officials said."

and…

"At the Federal Bureau of Investigation, some investigators said they were baffled by the Bush administration's insistence on a solid link between Iraq and Osama bin Laden|s network. "We've been looking at this hard for more than a year and you know what, we just don't think it's there," a government official said."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70D1EF8...

This is consistent with what they were saying back in October 2002.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=artic...

"There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever."
-Richard Clarke, former terrorism chief under bush.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/mai...

Iraq-al Qaeda ties have not been found

Bush administration hyped sketchy and false evidence to push for war
The Bush administration’s claim that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had ties to al Qaeda — one of the administration’s central arguments for a pre-emptive war — appears to have been based on even less solid intelligence than the administration’s claims that Iraq had hidden stocks of chemical and biological weapons.

Nearly a year after U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq, no evidence has turned up to verify allegations of Saddam’s links with al Qaeda, and several key parts of the administration’s case have either proved false or seem increasingly doubtful.
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/2004/03/04/news/na...

Iraq and al Qaeda: What Evidence?
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF...

bush's own hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. David Kay;

David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all."

He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link, as being "evidence free."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2...

Israeli intelligence (the Moussad)

“According to Israeli intelligence, Palestinians are still not connected to the global terror network, and neither is Iraq.”
http://www.haaretz.com /

bush's second and final hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. Charles Dueffler;

Report: No WMD stockpiles in Iraq, no capability since 1991, no evidence of ties to al Qaeda, no serious threat;
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/06/1096949583...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/i... /

OFFICIAL VERDICT: WHITE HOUSE MISLED WORLD OVER SADDAM-AL QAEDA TIES
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0617-03.htm

No evidence of Iraq-Al Qaeda ties: 9/11 commission
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/cheney.911

"CIA Review Finds No Evidence Saddam Had Ties to Islamic Terrorists"
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1005-01.htm

NO ties between Iraq and international terrorists, al-Qaeda or otherwise:

1. Central to the Saddam - al Qaeda connection claim is the assertion that Czech authorities had evidence of a meeting between one of the September 11 hijackers, Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi agent in Prague in April 2001.

Both Czech President Vaclav Havel and Czech intelligence refuted this report.
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security...

More than that, so do the FBI and CIA; Only one problem with that story, the FBI pointed out. Atta was traveling at the time between Florida and Virginia Beach, Va. (The bureau had his rental car and hotel receipts)
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/060203A.shtml

This lie of BushCo's was debunked last year. But to this day, members of the Administration cite the Prague report as evidence of an Iraq - al Qaeda connection.

2. Cheney also claimed that 1993 World Trade Center bombing co-conspirator Abdul Rahman Yasin had received “financing” and “safe haven” from Saddam’s government.

You have to really love this one...yeah he did. Sort of. He was in an Iraqi JAIL from 1994 until shortly before the invasion;

"He was being clothed and fed by them so long as he wore stripes,” joked one U.S. investigator.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067794 /

Yasin had hopped onto a plane for Iraq. He was picked up by the Iraqi police a year later and had been held without a charge placed against him. Iraq had twice offered to deliver him to the United States, but only upon written receipt that Iraq had given him up… "like a receipt for a FedEx package"
http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2002/msg00755.html

but the US refused the offer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2022991.st...

Yasin was picked up by the FBI a few days after the bombing in an apartment in Jersey City, N.J., that he was sharing with his mother. He was so helpful and cooperative, giving the FBI names and addresses, that they released him.

Yasin says he was even driven back home in an FBI car.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/31/60minutes/mai...

The FBI agree, saying they decided to let Yasin go free.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/31/60minutes/mai...

Yasin, whose picture is on the FBI Web site along with Osama bin Laden, is one of President Bush’s 22 most-wanted terrorists.

3. Ansar al-Islam, a radical Kurdish group, whose leader lives a free man in Norway, after 2 FBI interrogations found nothing to even declare him an "enemy combatant".

Of course there's that other pesky little fact, that Ansar al lives in the Kurdish north of Iraq, out of Saddam's control and under Kurdish AND AMERICAN control for the past 13 years.

http://www.iht.com/articles/85957.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO302B.html

Iraq had no ties to al Qaeda, and nothing to do with the 911 attacks; so would a bush-supporting moran please explain why bush is suddenly again LYING by implying Iraq was involved with the 911 attacks?

And yes, his "We went to war because we were attacked..." is clearly a LIE.


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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:15 PM
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7. WOW!!! Thank you SOOO Much. I can't wait to flip this on the Fundie
we talkied about it today and kept saying I'm glad we are fighting them over there instead of here.

I was like did you know there were no terrorists in Iraq before Bush went in? She said she didn't believe that.
When I said the BUSH himself said that there was no link between Saddam and 9/11 she said that she didn't believe that either.

SO I've got to help her with the PROOF.
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