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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:19 PM
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DSM's still do not answer why Bush wanted war
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 09:19 PM by Beaver Tail
Fortunately, he did that himself.

<snip>
Yet there’s evidence that Bush not only deliberately relied on false intelligence to justify an attack, but that he would have willingly used any excuse at all to invade Iraq. And that he was obsessed with the notion well before 9/11—indeed, even before he became president in early 2001.
</snip>

Edit

FOrgot the link

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/1481/Why_George_Went_To_War
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:21 PM
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1. Thats way too easy
CARYSLE GROUP
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:24 PM
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3. Yeah
and the Bin Laden family and Bush Family are shareholder
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:23 PM
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2. to replace the bases the U.S. gave up in Saudi Arabia
to appease Osama.
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Ragnar Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:24 PM
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4. I think it's about history
Ironically, Bush thinks he needs to start a major war to be viewed as an historic leader. Afghanistan is too diluted - it's mainly a man hunt. The War in Iraq was his major conflict.

Either that, or he was ordered to do it by the Saud family.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:25 PM
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6. But to attack Iraq he need an excuse
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:24 PM
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5. "He tried to kill my daddy!"
nt
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:29 PM
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8. Another manufactured event.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:28 PM
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7. PNAC
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 09:32 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
See www.oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm and google "new Pearl Harbor". You'll find answers to why warnings about the 9/11 attacks were ignored plus PNAC's plans for Pax Americana.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:16 PM
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17. Or go to PNAC's website.
www.newamericancentury.org. Click on the Iraq/Middle East link. They've been pushing for Saddam's ouster since 1998 when they wrote Clinton.

While you're there, check out the PNAC members - Cheney, Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, Armitage, Perle, etc., etc.

Search the site carefully, and all will become clear. They don't hide anything.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:29 PM
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9. Big debts..fat treasury.
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 09:30 PM by SoCalDem
His poppy called in a lot of markers to get the rich and powerful to line up behind his idiot son. The only way (easiest way) to transfer all that lucious surplus that Clinton left, would be to issue contracts (preferable no-bid) for a war. During the "war" people would be too scared to notice that lots of the treasury money was also being shoveled into pockets of "friends" who were implimenting his other schemes.. faith-based nonsense...clear-skies chock full 'o crap...healthy forests..once those pesky trees are gone...and all the others who would be asked in a few years to dig deep again for the re-selection.

WAR solved many problems..

1. it used up the "left-over" weapons & munitions
2. it allowed the gung-ho in the military to play soldier with real targets
3. it necessitated a round of bigger-badder weapons
4. gave him an excuse to play soldier dress-up and look tough
5. replenished the war-machine companies with lots 'o cool green
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:34 PM
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10. the guy they hired to do his bio in 1999, Mickey Herskovitz (?)
has said recently...reported here, of course, that bush told him that the best thing for a president to have happen on his watch was a small, containable war....it would allow him to push his agenda through

he did NOT want to have a 'failed presidency'

wonder who he was thinking about

they fired the guy, btw, cause he wasn't being sufficiently hagiographic for them

I'm sure there's a DU link for this discussion

amazing how very LITTLE, if zero, coverage, this got in the MSM...NOT!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:36 PM
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11. here you go....really disgusting stuff
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 09:37 PM by Gabi Hayes
Two years before the September 11 attacks, presidential candidate George W. Bush was already talking privately about the political benefits of attacking Iraq, according to his former ghost writer, who held many conversations with then-Texas Governor Bush in preparation for a planned autobiography.

“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”

Herskowitz said that Bush expressed frustration at a lifetime as an underachiever in the shadow of an accomplished father. In aggressive military action, he saw the opportunity to emerge from his father’s shadow. The moment, Herskowitz said, came in the wake of the September 11 attacks. “Suddenly, he’s at 91 percent in the polls, and he’d barely crawled out of the bunker.”

That President Bush and his advisers had Iraq on their minds long before weapons inspectors had finished their work – and long before alleged Iraqi ties with terrorists became a central rationale for war – has been raised elsewhere, including in a book based on recollections of former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill.
However, Herskowitz was in a unique position to hear Bush’s unguarded and unfiltered views on Iraq, war and other matters – well before he became president.

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:36 PM
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12. Read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses", and you'll....
...discover that the military activities in the Middle East are part of the NeoCons' plan to dominate the world's natural resources militarily, economically, and politically. That's why the NeoCons have been telling us, quite falsely, the the "war on terrorism" is going to take a long time to complete.

Project for the New American Century
<http://www.newamericancentury.org/>

Rebuilding America's Defenses
<http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf>
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:37 PM
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13. War lends patriotic legitimacy to a regime that had none
It's an old Machiavellian standby. Bush's father is a great student of Machiavelli. So are the neo-cons.

As Scott Ritter said tonight 911 strengthened a faltering administration. War strengthened it further.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:38 PM
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14.  Maybe cause its
ignorant greed followed by dellusions of grandeur and revenge? Unless he was just mad cause sadam's was bigger?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:03 PM
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15. Totally Irrelevant. Facts prove we went into Iraq based on false evidence
A lie about oral sex got Clinton impeached.

What are we going to do about treason?

Treason: betrayal and/or treachery towards one's country
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:11 PM
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16. The answers are in Cheney's 2001 Energy Papers....
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 10:13 PM by BrotherBuzz
I'm still waiting....
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