Seal hunt protest in Omaha a BIG success & nationwide!

[Omaha Steve]

http://www.omahaimc.org/newswire/display/725/index.php

Over 2 dozen people in Omaha protested the seal hunt calling for a boycott of Canadian seafood at the 2 Omaha Red Lobster locations today. Red Lobster was selected for it's refusal to stop importing Canadian seafood. The target is snow crab that comes mostly from the seal hunt area itself. See the links below. The rally was orderly and professional for a group of people that never met for the most part before today. It was effective. It didn't stop all from entering. It did stop a good number of those that clearly were going to eat there. The sound of cars honking as they drove by shows the public is behind the save the seal campaign. Holding signs, cheering approval to those that honked car horns, and handing out literature made for a big success. Many drivers took pictures of the event with cell phone cameras. More protests will be scheduled for the near future here in Omaha, and nationwide.

http://www.hsus.org/marine_mammals/protect_seals/why_a_boycott_of_canadian_seafood/

http://www.hsus.org/marine_mammals/protect_seals/why_a_boycott_of_canadian_seafood/red_lobster_day_of_action_schedule.html

http://www.protectseals.org/
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[Maple]

1. Um, that's nice

and has absolutely no effect on Canada.

[Kagemusha]

2. The seal doesn't need saving.

Criticize any animal killing as cruelty all you like, but by the numbers there are a lot better causes to pursue. Not that this is about the numbers, I imagine.

[friesianrider]

10. "By the numbers" there are better causes?

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Who are you to say? If your head was being clubbed in like the seals, it'd be a damn big priority to you. It's brutal and inhumane, and it needs to be protested. I'm sorry you don't think "by the numbers" it is a "worthy" enough cause. :eyes:

[roguevalley]

3. Protest on. I am on your side. This crap needs to stop and you

are doing the right thing.

[Maple]

4. Everybody needs

a hobby.

And if protesting lost causes is yours, feel free.

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[shockra]

5. Good!

I couldn't go to a protest because there are no Red Lobsters in my state, but I've been thinking about them all day and hoping that the protests went well.

[Maple]

6. No Red Lobsters

but there is a seal hunt in Alaska

[shockra]

7. Joe Walsh has tried to use that as an excuse...

for the Canadian seal "hunt."

Joe Walsh is a columnist for the St. John's Evening Telegram in St. John's, Newfoundland. He's been a rabid defender of the barbaric slaughter of harp and hood seals for decades.

http://www.seashepherd.org/editorials/editorial14.html

Paul Watson: The seal hunt in Alaska is a relatively minor aboriginal hunt in the Pribilof Islands that takes less than 1,500 animals each year and can hardly be equated with the slaughter of 350,000 seals each year on the nursery floes of the harp seal by non-aboriginal peoples. Levin in his statement to Congress cited the fact that the U.S.A. ended subsidies on the Alaska seal hunt in 1983...Walsh would rather deflect criticism of the Canadian seal hunt by pointing his finger elsewhere.

[Maple]

8. Killing is killing

and seals are no different than any other animal we kill and eat.

The 'cute' factor notwithstanding. Lambs and calves are cute too.

Perhaps you could stop killing humans first...then you'd have a cause.

But until and unless we are all vegetarians...animals get killed.

[Kool Kitty]

9. You do realize that we are trying to get

the killing of innocent humans stopped too, don't you? Why do you think that the people that are against the seal hunt are not also fighting for the end of the senseless slaughter that occurs in war and terrorism? We can fight for more than one cause at a time, you know.

[Ragnar]

13. Yes, but when you fight for the wrong things...

...it makes those of us who reserve our fights for the right things look bad standing next to you at an anti-war rally.

You probably believe in global warming and santa claus too.

[friesianrider]

16. I'm sorry...

Are you saying that fighting for animals is a "wrong thing" or did I misread your post (I hope)?

[Ragnar]

17. Fighting for some animals is wrong

Fight for endangered ones, and i'll battle with you.

[friesianrider]

18. Why is that?

Can't wait to hear this line of runny terds.

[Ragnar]

19. Life and death are inextricable.

I'll be eating meat on the day I die. You can eat your vegetables all you want, but they too were killed that you might live.

[friesianrider]

20. Umm...

So, does that mean you basically don't have a response to why you said fighting for some animals is wrong? Or is it just that your craving for flesh is more than you can bear?

And thank you for the permission, I will eat my veggies all I want, and probably live a lot longer and healthier life than you will...but I don't begrudge you at all, to each their own heart attack. ;)

[Ragnar]

21. Well, fighting for a species which is plentiful is silly

You might as well join PETA and fund some ALF terrorists. If you honestly believe all animals have a right to not be used then I am in complete and total disagreement with you.

Why is it okay to eat a hamburger and not a seal? I can at least grasp the idea of fighting for all animal life, even if I find it horribly misguided (not to mention damaging to the environmental movement). Fighting for the lives of just the cute animals is like being a cuddly nazi.

[friesianrider]

22. Humans are plentiful...should we not fight for human rights?

Just because some species is "plentiful" doesn't mean we can just kill a bunch off...and even if it did, I don't think clubbing is a very humane way to do it if we were going to. Also, just because I support animals rights and am a vegetarian doesn't mean I support animal rights terrorists :eyes: It's okay if you disagree with me about my belief that animals have a right to not be killed...I'm cool with that. ;) I'll respect your POV if you can respect mine. We'll agree to disagree.

"Why is it okay to eat a hamburger and not a seal?"

I don't think it is okay to eat a hamburger...didn't I just say I was a vegetarian? :shrug:

"I can at least grasp the idea of fighting for all animal life, even if I find it horribly misguided (not to mention damaging to the environmental movement). Fighting for the lives of just the cute animals is like being a cuddly nazi."

Seriously...are you feeling ok? When did anyone say they are only fighting for the "cute animals"? I can say with 100% certainty that the vast majority of the people protesting RL weren't there even IN PART because seals are "cute" and they don't want to see them killed because they're "cuddly". They're doing it because it's brutal and inhumane.

[Ragnar]

23. All killing is brutal

I was not sure where you were coming from. If I get this right, you are a vegetarian on ethical grounds, and protest the iunhumane killing of animals.

I understand that. Was the protest simply about the method of killing then? Because if it was about the killing in a more general sense, you should be protesting every non-vegetarian restaurant in town.

And ethically speaking, we have only the rights we can proclaim and defend. This means animals have no rights.

[friesianrider]

24. Of course...but have you ever seen the kill floor of a slaughterhouse?

It is not uncommon for cows to live 3-5 minutes after their throats have been slashed and their tracheas ripped out by hand. I think we, as beings who can sympathize and have compassion for others, should be more humane in the methods by which we choose to slaughter animals.

Might want to check this out sometime...www.meetyourmeat.com.

So yes, I an vegetarian MAINLY, but not only, because I think animals are slaughtered in incredibly inhumane ways...also because of the way they are treated before they are slaughtered.

The protest wasn't *only* about the way they are killed...check out the sites from the OP.

BTW, animals DO have rights...in many people's eyes and in the eyes of the law, because people recognize they suffer the same as you or I.

[Ragnar]

25. Well, you can buy that if you like.

I see movements like yours unfairly grouped with serious environmental concerns however, and it makes me wince. It is (and I am sure you would agree) a completely different issue. Unfortunately, in the eyes of many the two movements are related. It creates a negative PR problem for real environmental issues. That is the main problem I have with your type of protests.

BTW - I have seen the propagandistic portrayals of slaughterhouses and the more genuine protrayals. I still enjoy my steak with a clear conscience.

[friesianrider]

26. Propagandistic portrayals?

Um, a video of a kill floor is a video...what, do you think they're retouched or staged or something? There's no propaganda involved.

If you can enjoy a steak with a clear conscience after viewing a cow struggling for it's life in a pool of its own blood with it's trachea ripped out and throat slashed, I seriously worry about the future of our country that there are people THAT lacking in compassion for other creatures. It's a simple belief in right and wrong and compassion versus "I don't give a shit, I want a hamburger." May you never be anywhere else on the food chain that your life ends so cruelly and brutally.

Auschwitz begins whenever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they are only animals.
Theodor Adorno (1903-1969), German philosopher, sociologist, and musicologist


The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of 'real food for real people,' you'd better live real close to a real good hospital.
Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

[Ragnar]

27. Yes, propagandistic portrayals

Most slaughterhouses use shotguns to the head at point blank range. PETA has let out a few of the most disturbing videos ever seen of slaughterhouses, mostly of the kind you describe. A vast majority of slaughterhouses are run in a humane manner. Let's face it, a long, tortuous kill is inefficient and costly. It is in the meat company's best interest to perform the slaughter as quickly and cleanly as possible.

And anyone who compares the holocaust with meat (or quotes someone who does) is unworthy of further comment.

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[friesianrider]

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[Ragnar]

35. I'll tell you what:

You stop killing vegetables, and I'll stop killing animals.

[friesianrider]

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[friesianrider]

32. Resorting to name-calling is always productive.

It certainly shows you have nothing else substantive to argue with (although I admit, none of your arguments were particularly substantive OR anywhere near convincing). It's clear you are blissfully AWARE how merciless you are towards living things and think that's just fine by you. I guess you think it's okay to be such a person, and for that I truly feel sorry for you. I only hope you someday need the compassion of someone or something, and they show the same lack of compassion to you that you seem to show to animals. I won't argue with someone like you any longer.

"Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character; and it may be confidently asserted that he who is merciless to animal suffering cannot be a good man."

~The Dalai Lama

[Kool Kitty]

38. What makes you think that I would want to stand

next to you anywhere?

[friesianrider]

15. Watch your mouth!

:sarcasm:

What, you can care for humans AND animals too? Pssh. ;)

[friesianrider]

14. To some people...

I can say with 100% certainty that the majority of the people protesting the seal hunt are not doing it simply because "they're cute" :eyes:

To some people, animals are JUST as valuable as humans. I personally sure as shit don't care much about fighting for human rights causes...people suck. But animals? They are truly the most innocent creatures among us, and those who need the most protection, IMHO.

Some quotes, just for you, my friend: :)

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man.
Mahatma Gandhi


Life is life--whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage.
Sri Aurobindo

The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man.
Charles Darwin

[friesianrider]

11. I protested, too...in PA! :)

:hi:

Red Lobster blows anyway. Their food sucks everytime I;ve ever been there, and the way lobsters are killed is probably the most brutal and cruel form of torture I've ever seen in my life.

Good for you...protest on my friend, for those who have no voice! :)

[Omaha Steve]

36. They don't eat the meat, they want the fur coats only

The seals are hunted for their coats only, not the meat. About 1/2 are skinned alive. Would you like it if your house was broken into, and the outlaw clubbed your dog or cat and then skinned them alive etc...?

[Omaha Steve]

37. Martin Sheen PSA about the seal hunt online

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals/seals.html

[SnowBack]

39. This Canadian is against the seal hunt!

It's a barbaric practice that needs to be stopped.

Talking about the treatment of cows in slaughterhouses is a strawman... It's like saying we can't try to cure AIDS because we haven't cured cancer yet... We need to take care of both...