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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:40 AM
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bush pats his "air dog."
W when speaking seems in the last year or so to be going downhill.
Watch his speech and see if he does not try to pat a pretend dog
with his right hand as he trying to "catapult the propaganda."

His shoulders slump and he starts an up and down motion w/ his
right hand as if he has a large dog right next to him. I call that
tic "patting his air dog."

"Terrorists fear freedom and democracy ...... pat pat pat ...... and I
will not have the will of our freedom fighters shaken by ....... pat pat pat.....
terrorists who have fears." pat pat pat

:popcorn:
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:42 AM
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1. Maybe he's watched too much Scooby Doo...?
Caught some myself totally by accident last night. Pretty hallucinogenic, if you ask me. :P
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:43 AM
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2. Interesting. I cannot stand to look at him... or listen to his voice
This does sound like a new development, however.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:45 AM
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3. I like that! So much better then what comes to my mind...
tamping down the manure so he can dish out more.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:53 AM
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4. It's his demonic familiar, the hellhound.



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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:54 AM
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5. He's swatting evil demons
or petting his imaginary friend, Lucifer, who comes to him in the form of a dog. Son of Bush.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:18 PM
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6. Could it be a gross tremor?
Asterixis, also called "flapping tremor," is a hallmark of advanced alcoholic liver disease, although there may be central nervous system diseases that cause it.

If it is a motion at the wrist, that sounds like what it might be. I can't stand to watch the man, so I haven't seen it.

In any case, I've seen enough evidence of progressive neurological disease over the past 10 years to think he's a sick man who needs to resign.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:29 PM
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10. like Wernicke-Korsakoff?
maybe he'll also DROP his imaginary dog like he did with Barney.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:38 PM
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15. Wernicke Korsakoff is the central nervous system deterioration
and can be arrested if the person stops drinking. Since Idiot continues to decompensate, I think he must still be drinking.

Asterixis is associated with alcoholic cirrhosis, not Wernicke Korsakoff.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:20 PM
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7. I think we should give Air Dog a name....
How about Harvey, in honor of another drunk's imaginary animal friend.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:25 PM
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8. No because Harvey was nice and a great movie ....
..... this is like having to watch Steven Segal do Hamlet.

Although i do think * does see Pookahs all the time.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:14 PM
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11. How about Barvey
Barny + Harvey = Barvey
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:18 PM
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12. Rove-r
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:13 PM
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35. I just looooove your idea: Rove-r !
:rofl:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:58 PM
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42. I like it
Rove-r is here to help ..... Pat Pat Pat


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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:26 PM
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27. Someone find out the name of "Son of Sam's" neigbor's dog...
...Because that's a much better comparison than dear sweet Harvey.

"What's that, Air Dog? You say I should destroy the US economy, and start WWIII?"
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:04 PM
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31. Uh, wasn't it Sam?
Thus, the name Son of Sam, because he thought the dog was communitcating
with him, and telling him to do what he did.

Anyway, good suggestion!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:48 AM
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45. WOW....I just looked it up: the dog's name was HARVEY!
http://crime.about.com/od/murder/p/sonofsam.htm

SNIP:
"His new neighbor, Sam Carr, had a black Labrador named Harvey, who Berkowitz believed was also possessed."
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:29 PM
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9. That's coz he has Wernicke-Korsakoff's syndrome
The argument for President Bush having Wernicke-Korsakoff's syndrome

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/10/diagnosing-bush.html
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:19 PM
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13. I think he's fanning his "air biscuit".
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:14 PM
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36. I prefer "spanking the air monkey" n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:28 PM
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14. It's actually a form of hypnotism, a psychological trickery
As your conscious mind is distracted by the patting hand and its rhythm, your subconscious mind is absorbing without question the words which are being spoken. That's also a reason why bush speaks in that peculiar cadence he has. All his words go into your subconcious mind without being critically filtered because your right brain is too busy being distracted by his physical movement.

It's trickery, sheer trickery. In person, his audiences are so screened and gullible, it's even more effective.

bush is incredibly media trained. He uses all the psychological tricks in the book. When he stammers, that's a trick, believe it or not. I would very much like to know who is media training the chimp.

I'm not saying bush is anywhere close to being a mesmerizer, but it's something on the level of a magician. While you're looking somewhere else, he's doing his best to fool you on another level.

Never underestimate that bastard. I know he looks and acts stupid, but he's cunning.





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AlwaysQuestion Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:25 PM
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17. Very interesting
I enjoyed your analysis of Bush's ticks. Preamble; then Question for you. For some time now I've been trying to figure out why I despised the man from the get-go. The very first time I observed him delivering a speech, I thought this man is evil. My reaction was so pronounced and gutteral that it took me by surprise. Do you have any ideas? Did you or anyone else pick up on him immediately from the onset of his administration?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:03 PM
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22. The first time I heard him
I was too appalled by how much he sounds like his dad.

I still swear to this day that Dana Carvey cost Bush sr the election.

"Wouldn't be prudent!"
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:45 PM
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29. You had a gut reaction based on body language and hearing his voice.
I've read that 80 to 90 percent of communication is nonverbal. We see things subconsciously in a person's face when they're lying, no matter how poker face they are, that tells us that person is lying.

We've all experienced this, when you walk away from someone and say, "Dammit, he (or she) is lying, I just know it!" Or someone just creeps you out and you can't figure out why, and later on you find out the truth about the person and then you understand why you had that gut reaction.

FWIW, the first time I saw bush was when I lived in Texas and his photo was in the paper. I took one look at him and said, "That is one cold man."

Often when we meet someone and we get a little voice in our head that says something which surprises us, we need to pay attention. bush's followers are so eager for a leader, they'll even accept a counterfeit version.

For a really good book on the subject of intuition, read The Gift of Fear. It explains how intuition is actually the instantaneous processing of enormous amounts of information based on subconscious assessment of what's in your environment and the people around you. I recommend it highly.

Also, a friend of mine is a professional hypnotist, very well-known in his field, and he gave me a book which explains why hypnotists use the techniques they use. Fascinating.

Thanks for asking, and a big welcome to DU! :hi:

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AlwaysQuestion Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:06 PM
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43. Intuition -
"The Gift of Fear" it is. Will definitely look for a copy. Thanks, Shooter, for the welcome and thanks too for the info--fascinating subject. Cheers!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:19 PM
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39. Yes
My first memory of * was after his father had left office, sometimes during Clinton's second term. It was fleeting, and my only thought was that he looked like his father. Later, when he was rumored to be the challenger to Gore, probably around 1998, I didn't hear him speak. He seemed to be a lightweight. But as soon as I heard him speak, I had the same reaction as you did. It was overwhelmingly negative. His stupidity was blatantly obvious, and I still think he is stupid. He is obviously coached, but he needs no help appearing stupid. He IS evil, but it is because he is stupid enough to do whatever he is told. I can't think of anything more dangerous.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:19 PM
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40. Yes
My first memory of * was after his father had left office, sometimes during Clinton's second term. It was fleeting, and my only thought was that he looked like his father. Later, when he was rumored to be the challenger to Gore, probably around 1998, I didn't hear him speak. He seemed to be a lightweight. But as soon as I heard him speak, I had the same reaction as you did. It was overwhelmingly negative. His stupidity was blatantly obvious, and I still think he is stupid. He is obviously coached, but he needs no help appearing stupid. He IS evil, but it is because he is stupid enough to do whatever he is told. I can't think of anything more dangerous.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:31 PM
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18. Do you have a reference for this?
Does this explain the similarity of Bush's arm/hand motions and the Nasi salute? What about the stutter is hypnotic?

:kick:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:47 PM
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30. Sorry, no reference. (but see my post above)
Actually, I don't know if bush is subconsciously imitating the Nazi salute, or if people with fascist tendencies just tend to "wave" in such a manner because it's a more rigid posture. I've actually never seen anyone wave like that, personally. Rather, people tend to bend their elbows and move their hand from side to side.

Very interesting question, IndyOp, about the "salute."

The stutter is hypnotic because it takes your mind away from what he's saying and instead you're focusing on the stutter itself, which allows what he's saying to get past your normal critical-thinking filters and right into your subconscious. Hypnotists don't stutter, but they talk very fast (most of them) when inducing a subject into a trance. Most people think hypnotists would talk slowly, to relax a person. No. They talk fast so that your mind does not have time to process and reject what they are saying.

bush is media trained. Google it, if you'd like. It's a fascinating subject.

Also read this article for more insight on bush's cunning deliberate attempt to persuade through rhetoric: "Power of presidency resides in language as well as law'

"George W. Bush is generally regarded as a mangler of the English language.

What is overlooked is his mastery of emotional language -- especially negatively charged emotional language -- as a political tool. Take a closer look at his speeches and public utterances and his political success turns out to be no surprise. It is the predictable result of the intentional use of language to dominate others.

Bush, like many dominant personality types, uses dependency-creating language. He employs language of contempt and intimidation to shame others into submission and desperate admiration.

While we tend to think of the dominator as using physical force, in fact most dominators use verbal abuse to control others. Abusive language has been a major theme of psychological researchers on marital problems, such as John Gottman, and of philosophers and theologians, such as Josef Pieper."


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/130534_focusecond13.html

Sorry it took me so long to respond, it's actually a work day for me.







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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:12 PM
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34. I hope you've reached the end of your work day --
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 10:15 PM by IndyOp
If you think of it, could you post the name of the book you mention -

Also, a friend of mine is a professional hypnotist, very well-known in his field, and he gave me a book which explains why hypnotists use the techniques they use.

My gut says that the 'air dog pat' has a calming effect in a disempowering/pedantic way --
> Now, now don't get all riled up
> Calm yourselves - I will explain everything
> Quiet down now - shush, shush

It is what we instinctively do when trying to get a crowd to quiet down or when silently signally another individual to not make any noise.

It is controlling in an 'I'll take care of you' sort of way. Reminds me of what I detested about Ross Perot -- his pie charts and graphs and simple explanations of the big, complex world were so insulting.

:kick:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:17 PM
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38. Work day still going, and I have to get back to it.
I can't think of the name of the book right now, but since I'll be talking to the hypnotist tomorrow (I hope he's available), I'll ask him for the title.

I haven't watched bush except in little download clips, but you're onto something with the "controlling" thing. I definitely believe that all his mannerisms, which he didn't have years ago, are contrived to produce a result in his audience.

He is a snake.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:04 PM
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32. Oh, I wish you could do a blow-by-blow narrative of the
tricks he is using when he speaks Tuesday night!

Could you pretty please? :D
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:09 PM
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33. Ewww. Do not use the word "blow" when referring to bush, LOL.
I don't have television, but what I'll do is call my hypnotist friend, who is not a bushie, and ask him if he'll do it, just for grins.

This should be a particularly interesting speech, seeing as it's being staged in Fort Bragg. There will be lots of symbolism and mind-jerking of the public going on.

Thanks for the idea :hi:

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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:33 PM
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41. Oh, thank you, thank you!
I really look forward to it. Sorry for the word blow. :hi:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:07 PM
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16. What about his head bobbing? It's like he is trying to coach the
audience to nod in agreement.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:14 PM
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37. I don't know.
It makes sense, though. We all tend to nod our head when someone else is nodding their head. Maybe that's another way of getting the subconscious to go along with the speaker.

Remember that those who watched the Kennedy-Nixon debate thought Kennedy won, and those who listened to it on the radio thought Nixon won. So many visual clues that influence us.

Bottom line is that there are those who can see past the premeditated deceit, and those that cannot. bush is transparent to us because we're more observant and we pay more attention to what he does than to what he says.

Fascinating subject. I can't wait until bush is in a straitjacket and being studied by real professionals :7



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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:12 PM
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44. I guess my years in sales has taught me to read body language.
If I had just met the guy, I don't think I would trust him. I know I wouldn't like him.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:33 PM
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19. I wonder if he'll do that Tuesday night??
We'll have to look! In fact... lets make a game out of it!!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:39 PM
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20. Is this the air dog pat?


it looks like a modified rummy double pat...

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:53 PM
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21. Yes
Shoulders slumped forward ......
and right hand going up & down.

Often done w/ a smirk and when he is trying to tell you that
bullshit on toast is country style apple butter.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:04 PM
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24. LOL! and look at jaffi's face watching him...
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 07:04 PM by leftchick
he is like... wtf?!?

:rofl:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:17 PM
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25. found another...
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 07:19 PM by leftchick
Now I have something to look forward to in this stupid ass speech. The air dog pat! Thanks Botany! Now that I am really looking at it he really has that Nixon hunch down doesn't he?

:popcorn:

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:18 PM
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26. Hmmmmm this picture is a little different ....
..... The true air dog pat has his hand parallel to the floor or the speaker's
podium ...... although this is a great example of the shoulder slump ....
what a fucking twit
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:36 PM
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23. has anyone else noticed him pawing the ground with his foot?
They usually don't show him below the waist, from the side of the lectern or behind it, so this isn't evident in most news broadcasts. But sometimes there are still photos which seem to indicate that he is tapping or jiggling his foot, or even rubbing the ground with it. A DUer who saw him giving a speech a few years ago (in the Carolinas, I think) observed this -- when Bush gets agitated, the "pawing" increases, almost like a trained horse trying to tap out numbers, was the comparison.
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shockra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:45 PM
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28. That reminded me of "The Fool" card in the Tarot deck.
THE FOOL

Basic Tarot Symbols

The fool in colorful motley clothes, pack tied to a staff, a small dog, a cliff.

Basic Tarot Story

With all his worldly possessions in one small pack, the Fool travels he knows not where. So filled with visions and daydreams is he, that he doesn't see the cliff he is likely to fall over. At his heel, a small dog harries him (or tries to warn him of a possible mis-step).

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/meanings/fool.shtml
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