REAGAN won "Greatest American" on Discovery Channel?!

[PretzelWarrior]

supposedly it is being aired starting at 9pm ET about 20 minutes ago. Would appreciate an update.

thanks

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on edit: I had my suspicions a lot might vote for him....but to have the reality hit me? OH MY GOD.

here's their contact url:
http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations

and here's what I wrote. it is not very well thought out. just my pure rage.

I am VERY offended by the airing of such a pile of crap program where someone as dumb and backward as Ronald Reagan could make it into the TOP 10 greatest Americans. But when I saw he was the #1 vote in a clearly unscientific polling of America...with no weighted inputs from historians or experts...it just galls me. You are either purposefully or gullibly making yourselves the mouthpiece of the new hardline propagandist Republicans.

I will NEVER be watching your piece of crap channel ever again. Even MTV would be less harmful to my brain.

[Cobalt Violet]

1. I don't know . I haven't watched it .

But I love your user name. :rofl:

[PretzelWarrior]

2. lol. yeah. I changed it awhile back to reflect my affinity with

the pretzels' cause. The pretzels whether they be mighty "Rolled Gold" or the quotidian bulk food pretzel have fought brilliantly for democracy. Much as did the mountain bikes and Segways for Freedom.

But we must not let their failed attempts to restore democracy go in vain.

Long live the pretzel warriors.

[blackcat77]

3. It's down to Lincoln and Reagan nt

[PretzelWarrior]

4. OH MY F*CKING GOD!

this is really something else. the idea that at WORST fuckwit Reagan is runner up and at BEST is gonna take the prize for greatest?
WTF? BEtter than civil rights leader? Better than the inventor of electricity? US Postal Service? Signee of Declaration of Independence?

WHAT KIND OF F*CKING MORONS ARE VOTING IN THIS THING????????????????????????????????????


AAAAAGGHGGHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so goddamn discouraged right now.

[Bleacher Creature]

5. I'm actually glad.

The whole competition was freeped. Plain and simple. Obviously Reagan is not the greatest Americans of all time. The fact that he's artificially ranked just shows how fake this "competition" was. I'd be more upset if he was somewhere between 5-10, because then people could argue that it was real.

[mtnester]

10. Exactly....so now the Discovery Channel is a joke too

along with MSM...anyone watching has got to be shaking their heads going WTF? Reagan?

I am going to stay right with the Next Food Network Star.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

58. The Discovery Channel has been a joke for years

When it first came on in the mid 1980s, it showed a lot of great science documentaries and historical and anthropological documentaries from all over the world.

Now it's all home decorating shows (yeah, like there are no other outlets for home decorating shows on TV :eyes: ) and true crime.

It has joined A&E, Bravo, AMC, and the Travel Channel on the list of formerly intelligent channels.

I'm actually finding the pure entertainment channels, such as USA and SciFi being more intelligent than the allegedly "educational" channels.

[oasis]

62. Discovery Channel: Home of the Las Vegas infomercial. (eom)

[blackcat77]

6. And the winner is...

Reagan.

Fuck this. Every Discovery channel has just gotten locked off my cable box

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. unfrigging believable.

[VioletLake]

14. Reagan won, huh?

And it was conducted by the Discovery Channel? Gosh... that sounds awfully credible.

I guess that settles it once and for all: America loves Republicans.

:sarcasm:

:rofl:

[derby378]

18. The only thing to blame Discovery for...

...is letting the FReepers throw the vote. We DUers could not agree on a candidate of our own to vote for, if memory serves me right. But the FReepers are excellent followers, not leaders. They'll do whatever they're fucking told.

Besides, ginbarn and I thoroughly enjoy Mythbusters.

[Roxy66]

23. I only get Right-Wing radio in my area...and every host was pushing it Big

Time. I never heard an ad on AAR or the other liberal radio show..I could have missed them, but Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, and this other guy were pushing people to vote big-time

[Wabbajack]

42. They did not pick the winner

All the freepers who voted did. It's not their fault.

[kliljedahl]

43. You really "care" about an online, phone-in, text messge

poll that you can vote on three times a week. Of course if you clear your cookies you can vote an infinite number of times. This has as much validity as online opinion polls and online petitions. This kind of stuff is pure BS. I'd never have known it existed if not for hysterical posts like yours. Not a flame, just an observation.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[PretzelWarrior]

47. what vacuum have you been in? it's advertised all over

on radio and multiple TV channels. your post with the "oh man you've given them more publicity by mentioning it" meme isn't going to work.

thanks for your opinion. I just don't happen to agree with it.

This one is different than a quickie Wolf Blitzer poll or something else because it has been built up for multiple weeks on quite a few media outlets including USA Today,etc. People will wonder what the result was. Some people will be like.."oh...maybe he was great". and then the things they do supposedly based on his legacy will reach that much more level of acceptability.

[VioletLake]

49. Here's a fun way to look at it:

When the subject comes up in your conversations, you'll have the opportunity to set the other person straight.

Also, think of all the lucky stupid people who were introduced to the Discovery Channel. It'll do wonders for In Search Of's ratings.

[OctOct1]

7. I will never watch the discovery channel again!!!!!!

[PretzelWarrior]

11. they definitely deserve a black mark. this is insightful television?

oh my god. they have great science programs...but to run an unscientific popularity contest where no experts weigh in and it is just a free for all and get this guy listed as greatest American?

it just smacks of one more page turned in the modern propaganda we are forced to listen to. day. after. day.

[OctOct1]

16. We should have known better

When Ann Coultler was part of the show, it had no class to begin with.
It is just trash entertainment

[Roxy66]

9. Ron Reagan thinks it's a joke...LOL

[Jawja]

12. Well I must say that I

misunderestimated the stupidity of the American public. Any doubt about why we are in the shape we are in?

What a terrible indictment of our educational system, that Americans would consider a B-Grade ACTOR who was certainly NOT one of our greatest Presidents over the likes of Eisenhower, Washington, Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Neal Armstrong, Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt, etc. etc. etc.

:puke: :mad: :banghead: :banghead:

[Roxy66]

13. I would be curious what the viewership is between Dem and Repug

[PretzelWarrior]

17. who cares? clearly a bunch of morons are able to vote

and that has been what created the evil vortex we are now living through.

[mtnester]

15. HAH, their server is working overtime...wonder how bad they

are getting slammed...I am STILL waiting for a site response (been more than a minute on broadband)

On edit - STILL no respnse from the site

[XOKCowboy]

19. Look at it this way...

The freepers and Repugs had only one candidate to vote for. In the previous GA thread we were all voting for Franklin, MLK, Washington, Lincoln.

Just like libs to split their votes!

Oh well. It's just the Discovery Channel

[AngryAmish]

20. The Jim Anchower snub is what galls me the most.

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. It just goes to show you - genius knows no boundaries....

... but idiocy is confined to a red state near you.

[OctOct1]

24. Thanks for the laugh

:rofl:

[Faygo Kid]

22. I will e-mail the Discovery Channel

And plead with them never to do anything as stupid again.

[Cash]

25. It's a damn TV show.

Open a fucking window.

[Name removed]

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[Cash]

29. Who cares.

It's a TV show.

And you're not the only one who takes long breaks. I haven't written in quite a while and when I saw people worked up over a TV show that maybe 20 people watch about an opinion, at first I just shook my head. Now, I'm laughing.

[PretzelWarrior]

30. maybe you don't get why I'm upset. this thing is symptomatic

of a crazed population that is easily led along by deception by those who control the airwaves and news cycles. that has clearly been the conservatives and owning class for some time now.

so I guess this is one more way I am reminded we are losing the battle against facsism.

Much like Winston in 1984...we have to question our own sanity when the majority clearly go along with what the Inner Party puts out there.

again...how to get the PROLES to rise up out of their stupor...same as it ever was.

[Cash]

36. Yeah

And those you refer to as PROLES are wondering when you're going to take off the tin-foil hat and live in the real world.

The way I see it both sides are saying the other side is blind and pointing fingers and calling names. I'm at the point where I find it all amusing. 300 million Americans, and if one-half of one percent watched the show it would be an overwhelming success such that The Discovery Channel has never known. But it only had a handful of viewers and gets a mention here. Pretty damn funny to me.

[PretzelWarrior]

39. you didn't answer my question

who do you think is the greatest american? just wondering. I take your point. but you aren't even trying to see mine which is....this is a trigger point for me. this is just the latest in a parade of idiotic pieces of modern Americana that show we are doomed as a country to continue downward slide. that will result in either a mega war against made up enemies or civil war.

it just p!sses me off.

[Cash]

48. Here's the answer.

Don't tell me you've got your windows open but a TV show hardly anyone watches pisses you off, because I don't believe you. Someone shoots your dog, there's a reason to get pissed. Someone driving too fast through a residential neighborhood and endangering people and property, there's a reason to get pissed. A TV show on an off-brand network? Not in this lifetime.

The greatest American was my Dad.

Now, enough about an opinion program that 20 people saw, 19 of which are on DU.

[jfalchion]

37. "how to get the PROLES to rise up out of their stupor"

After this, are they really worth saving?

[KLF44]

26. I think this say's it all

:puke: :wtf: :puke: :wtf: :puke: :wtf:

[bullimiami]

28. crock of shit, who cares.

[PretzelWarrior]

31. come on folks. nominate this gem of a thread.--grovelbot

lol

[nonconformist]

32. I was so disgusted I threw up a little bit

in someone else's mouth.

[Deja Q]

33. Americans need to look at this website for the truth behind the B-actor:

www.liberalslikechrist.org/reagan

www.liberalslikechrist.org/reagan

www.liberalslikechrist.org/reagan

www.liberalslikechrist.org/reagan

www.liberalslikechrist.org/reagan

[high density]

34. Who cares, Reagan won an online non-scientific poll

Nothing surpising here given that most freepers probably don't have a job.

[Independent_Liberal]

35. OMG!!!

[bobo4u]

38. Only proves the theory. Americans ARE idiots. EOM

[jfalchion]

54. "Only proves the theory. Americans ARE idiots."

It's no longer a theory.

"You know, morons." - Blazing Saddles

[jfalchion]

56. full quote

"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

[Tactical Progressive]

40. This is why everyone should have voted for Bill Clinton

or even better, Hillary Clinton.

See how it works? This is what those of us that wanted the poll hit were talking about. Now you've got it on Discovery TV, and you know you'll get mainsleaze media "journalists" to mention how some people consider Reagan the greatest American in their "reporting".

[PretzelWarrior]

44. you've pointed out why I'm upset. they will use it in echo chamber

to keep the full court press for minimizing legacy of people like Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy while they burnish the false legacy of someone who should have been indicted...reagan.

it will easily be repeated ad infinitum on morning TODAY show watched by all the airhead "security moms" and on LENO Tonight show and on FoxNews...hell, the blowdried piece of crap on NBC nightly news will probably mention it.

F*CK all of 'em.

[lectrobyte]

41. Who cares? It's a TV show. With Matt Lauer. zzzzzzzzzzzzz. nt

[Scurrilous]

45. Ladies and gentlemen...

...presenting the greatest American ever! :puke:

[spacelady]

46. Ronald Reagan IS the greatest American, for starting the greatest

backslide of everything for which AMERICA STANDS. When he was elected, I simply lost hope--when ghwbush was elected I lost my patriotism, when ghwbush was up for reelection, my husband and I vowed to leave the country--when Clinton won, we stayed here & were disappointed by the petty scandals. THEN, when * got instated we said HELL NO NOT MY COUNTRY HE'S NOT GONNA FUCK WITH MY COUNTRY & Then when * got mysteriously RE-instated we're going "where is the Peace Train & how can we catch a ride?

[Stirk]

50. Only right-wing wackos would agree. Let 'em push this swill.

Anybody to the left of Dennis Miller will mumble "bullshit" and move on, with a vague disgust and slightly less trust in the corporate infotainment machine.

[LSdemocrat]

51. Sadly expected: Freepers had an obvious vote, normal people split theirs

For freepers and conservative ideologues, people who sadly make up a large percentage of this country, this was an easy choice. Reagan was the only true ideological conservative in the bunch, most of the ideologues were obviously going to vote for him.

Normal people, on the other hand, could make a strong case for any of the remaining four, which probably resulted in a massive splintering of the votes of normal people.

[jfalchion]

52. ?

How could ~50% of the votes go to fooken repukians?

[LSdemocrat]

53. Reagan didn't necessarily get a majority (I didn't watch the show)

Also, I don't consider Lincoln to be a Republican in the modern sense.

Clearly the thing was freeped. People could vote multiple times. There were probably an insane number of freepers voting Reagan continuously for days, while I saw DUers voting for all the other 4.

[jfalchion]

55. reply

He was still a fooken repukian.

[DefenseLawyer]

57. Well sure, since Reverend Moon

isn't technically an American.

[sakabatou]

59. I believe that my S.S. teacher plaaced (among other presidents)

Reagan as #16.

[FreedomAngel82]

60. Reagan???

So Reagan beat Lincoln, Franlkin, MLK, JFK, Clinton.... Oh God.

[in_cog_ni_to]

61. I knew he'd win.

We have a REPUBLICAN CORPORATE owned media. The contest was predetermined before the first vote was cast. Trust me. No one else could have won. Not a chance in hell.

[DemonFighterLives]

63. Just having Lauer and Miller and Coulter on

has lowered Discovery Channels reputation. Then to coronate Raygun- omg! I've already ranted on a couple of threads here already.
I will write Dis. Channel tomorrow on there falling credibility.
:feak:

[burrowowl]

64. As Spock would say:

interesting.
I am underwhelmed, I am not surprised.

[Art_from_Ark]

65. Someone would have to be wacko to choose Reagan

especially over REAL patriots like Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin