Graham-Clinton Lovefest Irks Evangelical Big

[maxrandb]

I Know, I know...it's from Newsmax. I though DU might enjoy this story. Especially the comments from the Freepers. Their hatred of all things Clinton just can't square with the fact that Billy Graham said nice things about Bill and Hillary. Some are even accusing Graham of being a senile old fool who never really was a Christian to start with. If it weren't so scary, it would be comical. Then again...IT IS PRETTY COMICAL

FYI - I've added some comments of my own as a kind of reply to the freepers. Hope it gives you a chuckle in these "humourless" times.

:rofl:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/6/27/84943.shtml

National Clergy Council president Rev. Rob Schenck walked out on Rev. Billy Graham during the second night of his Queens, New York crusade on Saturday, after Graham yielded the stage to Bill Clinton and suggested his wife Hillary should be president.

"I was stunned and appalled," Rev. Schenck told the Christian Wire Service, saying that he left Flushing Meadows Park while Graham was still complimenting the Clintons.

and from the Freakers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431536/posts

"I must admit to being dismayed at the display and at Mr. Graham's comments.

It is hard for me to imagine that if Billy Graham where fully cognizant of the Clinton's behavior, and what they stand for, he would have suggested she be president.

I was troubled that the Graham ministry allowed the Clinton's to obtain this political photo op bonanza.

I would like to hear some follow up comments from Franklin Graham."

My comment: sorry freeper, Franklin's got his head too far up Pat Robertson's ass to respond right now

"This is mind blowing. The Conservative movement; 2 steps forward, shoot ourselves in the foot, limp 3 steps back."

Mt comments: two words for you bud, "gun safety"

"This isn't the first time that Graham has twittered and cooed around the Clintons.

There is folly in trusting to human beings--Graham has reaped a lot of material rewards in being the premier evangelist. But I do not believe that it is possible for a human being, once exposed to celebrity, to ever be able to overcome the spiritual damage it does. All is vanity.

Medical personnel in Asheville hospitals can tell you stories about how the Grahams expect a helicopter to be sent to their log mansion every time they catch cold"

all is vanity? Guess you feel the same about GWB

"(1) Reverend Graham is no idiot - he is fully cognizant of President Clinton's behavior and principles.

(2) Reverend Graham also well knows that Senator Clinton is a strong, vocal supporter of sodomy and abortion.

(3) I can only conclude that something has gone drastically awry in the Reverend's ministry. I hope the damage he has done with this publicity stunt is remediable and I am praying for him.

He has done much good throughout the years - I hope he hasn't undone it now."

perhaps his ministry practices what it preaches. Maybe he's trying to live like Christ wanted him to

"Billy Graham has never been a strong man. His publicly professed beliefs have even bordered on pantheism at times. He will often say whatever he believes will please the most people, and in this he has a lot in common with the clintons. But this was a case of the clintons taking advantage of a senile man.

NOW will you all believe that Billy Graham is a 33rd degree Mason? That he has been preaching a water-down "anything goes" gospel for years? That he is NOT what he appears to be?

Read. Research. Don't trust, but verify."

Graham a 33RD degree Mason????...and they let you vote?????"

"I agree that any implied endorsement of the 'toons by Mr. Graham wasn't appropriate. For the Marxist Hillary to assume a throne of honor at an evangelical Christian crusade is beyond bizarre"

You're right. Your place of honor for her at one of these things would involve her being tied to a stake

"I always held Mr. Graham in high regards, but after the stunt he pulled with the SHE-DEVIL, I'll never see him in that light again. My hubby was right, NEVER ever put your eyes on men, but on God alone, because men will let you down and God won't!! I was extremely disappointed in Billy Graham endorsing the SHE-DEVIL for prez! I know, he didn't exactly say it, but we know what the SHE-DEVIL will do with that little clip!"

met my fair share of SHE-DEVILS in life. Can't say they were all bad

"It's like President Bush saying that the Islamic religion is a peaceful religion. It's like having all these inter denominational events after 9/11. Trying too hard to seem tolerant. Graham should have called it like it is. Clinton is an adulterer among other things. How does it help Clinton to be cuddled and loved by Graham, if he isn't told that what he did was wrong in the eyes of God. And I won't even get into Hillary."

is that you God? Thanks, we'll try to stop cuddling and loving people right away

[aden_nak]

1. You can always tell the level of media by seeing who its ads market to.

And the ads on Newsmax, if you can bring yourself to go there, pretty much sum it all up. Bible Software, Online Gold Trading, and a bunch of Learn To Fight In Days "combat" courses.

[ewagner]

2. Okay..let me get this straight

GWB was an adulterer, fornicator, alcoholic and coke head, but he found Jesus so all those sins are wipped off the books....

BUT

Clinton got a blow job so he's an adulterer forever no matter that he's also "born again"???

Freeper logic escapes me....

[undeterred]

3. Senator Clinton is a strong, vocal supporter of sodomy

Geez. :eyes:

[maxrandb]

7. How Can You be a "Vocal Supporter of Sodomy"?

Wouldn't you have your mouth full???

and this comes from a party that seems to have no problem with having a porn producer and porn superstar attending a Republican fund raiser.

Things that just make you go :wtf:

[goclark]

8. I have a stupid question

Maybe I forgot something.

Did Clinton fully describe what exactly he did with Monica?

I just don't recall him saying that "she____ me as I sat in the chair and she sat on the floor and ____ me."

I know he said that "he did not have sex with that woman," and later changed it a bit but I don't remember anything that He SAID about sodomy.

Thanks for the clarification

[maxrandb]

9. I Honestly Think he was Too Much of a Gentleman

to talk about Monica in that way.

It's all a bunch of crap anyway. I will be the first one to come out and say that what Clinton did was reprehensible, but I will follow that up with "how they deal with it is between him and his wife".

These people don't care. Somehow, a moment of weakness resulting in a "hummer" in the White House is more immoral than lying people into a war and killing countless innocent men women and children.

The freepers have such a disconnect. GWB could get, and did get(metaphorically) a blow job from a "8 inch uncut" male prostitute, but as long as he was killing "towel-heads", freepers would be A-OK with that.

[comsymp]

11. He NEVER said "he did not have sex with that woman"

You should be careful about perpetuating RWN myths.

(Gore never claimed to invent the internets, either)

[Stirk]

4. Those idiots think Christianity is a GOP trademark. It's sickening.

At least I don't see any of them complaining about mixing politics with religion. I think my head would explode from the hypocrisy overload.

[BobbyinPortland]

5. Good for Graham

Actually doing something "Christlike" sure can get those backward rethuglicans mad as hell, can't it?

I hope that any neocon/rethuglican/freeper that says anything bad about Billy Graham gets genital warts and gives them to Ann Coulter.

[Totally Committed]

6. Geez, Louise....

These people are sick.

TC

[eagler]

10. We seem to forget that Billy Graham is a Democrat and always has

been. He's probably the one well known minister who has refused to accept Reverend Moon's money.

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