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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:53 PM
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Bush has hastened the day of our economic and military collapse.
Our moral collapse has been a fact for along time. Since the beginning of the Vietnam War, our economic decline has been set in motion.Bush has made sure that the day when we will become beggar nation is quicker than it should be. Each one of our vaunted industrial giants is on terminal life support.IBM,GM, Ford, are just some examples.

In the service industries, every single service like Banking,Law,Accounting, Medicine is headed for overseas destinations never to return.

Militarily, our weakness is going to be enhanced by our economic bankruptcy.And our moral bankruptcy is making our young people question the wisdom of going to fight to keep up the political
fortunes of corrupt men like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

The walls are coming tumbling down.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:01 PM
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1. He's just bringing on the End Of Days is all...
Get a little rich in the process and then up to heaven he goes.

Yup...that's his plan...unfortunately he's too stupid to realize that since he started Bush Co. in the 70's, his plans have NEVER worked out.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:29 PM
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4. Has he figured out that
1. He can't take it with him when he goes.

2. He's going the other direction?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:07 PM
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2. We our self set this up after WW2 and it has worked well
We made the world safe for trade and made sure we had countries that would buy our goods, which they did. Now the shoe is on the other foot so to speak. These same people wish to cash in on the good things in life. Did any one really think that 5 percent of the worlds pop. could keep over 90 percent of the goods? It is like Bush can not see this and we do not wish to. Bush just is not helping. just speeding up the revolution or what ever you wish to call it.Face it no one stays on top for ever and it is time we spent some of our money on our country and not killing people. We need inter structure in a big way. New education, mass ways to get around, city planning, and the whole works. Not another military camp in the Middle East.:patriot:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:35 PM
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5. Totally agree.
Our downfall is electing people owned by Big Oil and Big War. Their 'solutions' threaten our national security. We needed to reinvent ourselves. Kerry should have pounded on this point in 2004. He should have laid out a vision that created a new infrastructure to deal with a post-peak oil economy. That could have created new, meaningful jobs that would work to make us free of mid-Eastern oil and the cost in lives and Treasury that such an energy policy dictates.

Sad that those who voted for this Alpha Monkey couldn't see who was behind the scenes pulling the strings.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:09 PM
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3. It's such a shame, too! Our military should be supreme!
I can't believe that they are causing our military collapse! It makes me so mad!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:01 PM
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13. I'm against being overly militaristic,
but as a vet, our military should be adequate to defend ourselves. Not for invasion, not for occupying and not for warfare just for the hell of it because some neocons got a wedgie about conquering the world.

The abuse makes me fucking crazy, too. :grr:
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:29 PM
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14. Actually, we need invasion and occupation capacity.
We could not have won the Civil War, World War I, World War II, The Korean War, the Persian Gulf War or the 2001 Afghanistan war without invasion and occupation capacity.

I hate to think what would have happened if we'd lost any of those wars.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:43 PM
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6. i lived through the Mt.St.Helens Volcano
the world turned shades of black, grey, and white. the new life that pushed through the stark environment that next spring was brave and strong.
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:51 PM
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7. Like Russia's Afghanistan War_But Worse!!
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michael_1166 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:18 PM
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8. You have enough...
nuclear bombs to destroy the planet not only once but several times, and you call your military weak?
And why should your military be supreme? Nobody wants to invade you anyway. Even only few people would like to visit you at the moment, with all that madness reigning on your soil.

Why that need for being supreme? Why can't the U.S. be just like any other country, why does it always need to be THE BEST and superior compared to any other country?
If even the liberal and progressive forces in the U.S. think that way, the next collapse after the collapse of the Bush regime will be inevitable, because your nation's illness will just get a different face.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:32 PM
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9. Let's be fair about this.
Why do Americans always need to be the best and win/be superior to any other country? Good question. Do you suppose its anything like the way other countries have done the exact same thing over the span of human history? Didn't the mongols, turks, germans, romans, vikings, and british, to name just a few, do pretty much the same thing? Not that this excuses us, I am simply objecting to the rather broad brush you're using to paint your picture with.
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michael_1166 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:49 PM
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11. Yes...
admittetly a broad brush... but the mongols, turks, germans, romans, vikings, british all failed in the end. If the U.S. continues this way and fails too, the consequences could leave our planet uninhabitable. I'm just worried. Superiority games these days could mean the end for us all.

The moral superiority of the U.S. ended, at the latest, with Abu Ghraib, if there ever was any. In my opinion you just had the better marketing in the past decades.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:58 PM
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12. If it makes you feel any better, I'm worried too.
I was appalled when Bush got into office the first time. The second term that he got was and still is unthinkable.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:34 PM
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10. Bush is really speeding it up. He could stop it but he won't
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 05:35 PM by barb162
He doesn't care. As long as his buddies get rich and they all move to the Riviera ands Switzerland, he'll be happy.
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