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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:36 AM
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Ladies, relax!! Overturning Roe v Wade won't outlaw abortion! Chill!
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 08:09 AM by Bluebear
*****SARCASM ALERT*****
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Cripes, take a Midol why don't you! "Only" 10 percent of Americans will be affected! "Only" seven states would have enforceable laws to ban abortion! Don't worry, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, etc would most likely NOT follow suit! Remember, this is only about sending the issue "back to the people". Majority rule, you know, fair up-or-down vote! So kindly stop concerning yourself with this "trivial" Supreme Court ruling which was obviously made by "activist judges". :sarcasm:


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PRESS RELEASE
COLUMBUS, Ohio, June 28 /Christian Wire Service/ -- The Life Legal Defense Fund, a nonprofit legal organization based in Ohio, today released a comprehensive study analyzing the current status of state laws on abortion and what would happen if Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the cases that legalized abortion throughout the country in 1973, were to be overturned.

The study concludes that only seven states (Arkansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Wisconsin) would have enforceable laws on the books that would ban abortion. These states represent less than 10 percent of the U.S. population. For the rest of the states, new legislation would have to be adopted, or significant state case law precedent would have to be overcome. Details of each state’s law can be found on the Fund’s website: www.overruleroe.com.



"The results of this study will come as a surprise to many Americans," said Paul Linton, Special Counsel for the Fund. "Overturning Roe and Doe would send the issue of when abortion should be permitted back to the American people. It will not result in making abortion illegal for most of the country."

The Fund decided to conduct the "Life After Roe" study after several reports with conflicting information began surfacing during the Presidential election. According to the Executive Summary of the study: "There is a widespread popular belief that such a decision would make abortion illegal throughout the United States, or that an overruling decision would return the country to the state of law that existed when Roe and Doe were decided on January 22, 1973. There is no basis in fact for either belief."

"The findings of this study are as important for the general public as they are for our elected officials," said Denise Mackura, Executive Director of the Fund. "Critical legal decisions by our United States Senators should be made on the facts we all have access to – not opinion," Mackura said.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/lldf0628.htm

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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:47 AM
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1. Your map is all wrong.
First of all, the state border between Miss. and Louisiana is wrong. Mississippi does not look like that.

Second, I guarantee that the following states will immediately pass laws banning abortion, once they are free to do so: Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, South Carolina, and (maybe...) Tennessee.

Thus, while much of America may still live in a freedom zone on abortion, there will be a nice swath of the country that will live in a "no abortion" zone.

So, what you are saying is that their rights do not matter, that we don't care if they are left high and dry, as long as it is legal everywhere else? I completely disagree with such a callous disregard for your fellow humans liberty interests. This is no different, and certainly no better, than those who were negotiating which states would be free states and which states slave states, rather than advocating for an end to slavery entirely.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:51 AM
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2. Could you please reread my post?
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 08:01 AM by Bluebear
>So, what you are saying is that their rights do not matter, that we don't care if they are left high and dry, as long as it is legal everywhere else? I completely disagree with such a callous disregard for your fellow humans liberty interests.<

Hi, could you reread my post, complete with the 'dripping with sarcasm' icon? :hi:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:06 AM
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10. YUP, my BP had risen until I read your post carefully!
Sarcasm duly noted. I'd bet at least a dozen states would hold "special sessions" just to enact anti-abortion law... Many others might be compelled to wait until the next session, but they would follow..
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:10 AM
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12. I edited the OP
to include 4 sarcasm alerts :hi:

This is the most disgusting ploy I have seen yet, an anti-choice press release assuring people that abortion will "still be legal". Disgraceful.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:54 AM
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3. already in texas they have eliminated available places to
receive abortion. a person in this city of over 300k has to drive two hours to receive the procedure. leaving the poor in a quandry once again.

there will be more law, more restriction to make it tougher and tougher to find places that will do procedure in a timely fashion.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:56 AM
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5. This is a disgustingly cynical and dishonest "bait and switch"
Honest, abortion will be legal! Until bing bing bing bing bing the states pass laws.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:02 AM
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9. bing bing bing, who th f* cares if one cant find a place to get them
look abortion issue isnt a big deal to me. i dont believe in them. i have never gotten one. and i am too old to ever need one. not my issue. but if you think all will be peachy if roe wade is reversed, i think you are wrong. bing bing bing.

it will set the climate, reinforce the perception abortion is murder and feed the ever growing anti abortion group. look back at 80's a strong percent of people were in favor of abortion. that has shifted today. reverse roe vs wade and gonna do it faster than anything
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:07 AM
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11. What on earth do you people think happened to me overnight?
Did you not see the sarcasm icon in the original post?

And the bing bing bing if you read again meant that one by one states will outlaw abortion contrary to the bullshit press release's assurances.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:17 AM
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13. ah.......lol lol, silly me. bah hahahahah
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 08:17 AM by seabeyond
bing bing bing

on edit, must have been telling me to take a pms pill, lol lol
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:20 AM
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XOXOX
:hug:

You know, since 2001 it is SO easy to write like these people too! Never fear, the pod people will never take me over :)
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:56 AM
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4. They are already researching "Life after Roe"
and yet even people on this board will tell you that women's rights is just a "wedge issue" and we should welcome people into the party who are for restricting women's rights and making women constitutionally second class citizens. I am going to save this thread and pull it out the next time someone here says that full citizenship for women is a "wedge issue"! :grr:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:58 AM
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7. I stand with you.
Abortion will never affect me personally, but if it affects my sisters it is my cause. No more "too much, too soon" for women's rights, gay rights, HUMAN rights.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:57 AM
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6. Whats with the dancing mAnn?
Is she having a conniption or something?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:58 AM
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8. Is she ever NOT having one? :)
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:20 AM
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14. Whew! What a Relief!!
Maybe I should be sterilized a third time....

Only, what, 86% of US counties already have no abortion provider? What are these bottomfeeding scumbag assholes worried about?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:24 AM
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15. Yeah, these people will stoop to just about any level.
While this isn't a flat out lie, it's as close to one as you can get. "Really, overturning Roe v. Wade isn't that bad."

My response: Kiss my ass. I'm not going to compromise on the Constitution.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:06 PM
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16. SaveRoe.com Has The Truth n/t
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