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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:05 AM
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The anger one sees in RWers comes from the rights that blacks, Jews,
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 08:06 AM by KlatooBNikto
Asians and Hispanics have acquired in this country since 1964. They are considered unworthy of such rights and the battle being waged is for reestablishing the primacy of the White Majority and Christian religion once and for all.

I would even say that their opposition to abortion,evolution and other social issues have their origin in this battle for supremacy.They believe that young white girls use abortion in overhwelming numbers compared to the other races skewing the demographic balance further toward the 'undeserving' people.Same with contraception.The opposition to Evolution is to ensure that the ideas of supremacy are not diluted down by the common ancestry of all races.

I hope I am wrong but what I say rings true to me.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:11 AM
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1. This Southern, female presbyterian,WASP agrees with you.
That theory makes sense to me. People are threatened when they are feeling that they are not in charge or in the majority.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:14 AM
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2. Mega Dittos
so to speak. I'm also a WASP, southern Presby. I've realized this for years.

:applause:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:24 AM
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5. Hi there fellow Presby WASP! I'm from NC originally
as is all of my family. They came over in the 1700s. Very WASPy. My aunt married Davey Crockett and my Grandfather (Scots-Irish who came over from northern Ireland) was the executor of his estate after the Alamo incident.

I think that I am the only liberal in my entire family! Everyone else is a conservative or non-political.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:15 AM
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3. There is/was a RW TV preacher in Milwaukee who said almost exactly that
Back in the late 80's, I used to occasionally watch a bit of this RW UHF TV channel named 'WVCY' after I got home and started drinking for the night. RW TV preachers were still something of a novelty back then, so it was entertainment of a sort because all of the hosts were obviously quite insane (I also didn't have cable).

In any case, this 'Vic Eliason' character used to rant on about exactly what you've described. Old Vic used to warn about white girls getting so many abortions that the 'white race' was in danger of going extinct. Ironically enough, he also used to rant that Planned Parenthood was a racist organization, since they encouraged black women to get abortions. Consistency was not Vic's strong point.

In any case, I think there is at least a segment of the Right Wing who believe most of what you stated above. At least old crazy Vic certainly did/does.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:43 AM
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9. I Watched Gene Scott
Same stuff. I'm Jewish, so it was even more absurd and goofy...especially at 3am and one has a good buzz going.

The theme I see on these shows is "we're excluded". There's an almost demand that there be some social evil or ill that these charlatans can use to create a "crisis" or scare the "Jeebus" out of those tuned in (most who were as buzzed, if not more than I was).

Many people want to live in a world of certainty. The want people to say what's good or bad, what will or won't happen...that they have control of their destiny...or if they don't, they know who to credit or who to blame. Telecharlatans play on these fears and hope you have the mastercard ready when you call the Prayer Line.

RIP Gene Scott
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:19 AM
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4. There's No Doubt In My Mind That You're Correct
Xenophobia is a powerful motivating factor.
The Professor
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:36 AM
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8. It's the "x" word that people forget about.
Xenophobia is highly common amongst all forms of life. A stray deer is unlikely to be accepted by another herd. It's the "Selfish Gene Theory".

http://bovination.com/cbs/selfishGeneTheory.jsp
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:28 AM
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6. One of my recurring themes here on DU and it makes some people
angry. It's all about white supremacy. I've said that over and over. It explains why George Bush could get the presidency (by hook or by crook) and keep it.

He's the ultimate subliminal symbol of white supremacy. We went from a democratic party who gave us glowing surpluses, a booming economy, etc. to ....

There was no reason to switch parties under our prosperity except white supremacy.

Everytime I hear the phrase "defending our way of life", I hear "make way for white supremacy".

The fact that Bush was willing to actually kill brown people put him way over the top with people. They wouldn't admit it, but they admire a white man willing to kick brown asses in what they see as a "politically correct" world.

We are all awash in white supremacy. TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, etc. etc. We are like fish who don't see the water they swim in.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:01 AM
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11. Agreed....Psychology 101
Those in power will either consciously or unconsciously work to keep that power...it happens in all formal and informal groups.

I would edit your observation to add MALES to that group....white, male, protestants have always been "in control" of the world...they do not give up or share power easily with minorities.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:03 AM
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12. Upper middle class and wealthy white supremacy that is.
A good part of the white middle class, along with all of the working class whites and poor whites are now at the back of the bus too....
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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:29 AM
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7. the source of the "judicial activism" meme
is the 1954 Brown v. Bd. of Education decision . . .
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:58 AM
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10. My Catholic relatives from New Jersey are
on the "us vs them" bandwagon, too. Firmly convinced blacks and hispanics are out to steal their paychecks via welfare. Don't believe black people are hard working. Adjectives like "lazy" tossed around when discussing minorities.

This demonization helps keep these people in the repuke fold. Even though they know deep down that under Clinton they were better off financially, they want nothing to do with the party "of the blacks and Puerto Ricans" as they'll solemnly tell you.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:33 AM
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13. What I find equally disturbing are the pseudo-scientific assumptions
that some in the medical profession are willing to make on the basis of ethnicity and skin color. Certainly since people tend to marry people that resemble themselves you would find a certain limited correlation of genetic markers among isolated groups but this is extrapolating evidence from the specific to the general. Moreover, I fear the destruction of the "lesser peoples" which is the secret goal of the reactionary Dominionists is being facilitated by the victims themselves who are being convinced there can be vanity cures like "black heart medicine" based solely on physiognomy.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:48 AM
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15. Reagan's "welfare queens" became Clinton's "Ending Welfare As We Know It"
The "destruction of 'lesser peoples'" is also used to disassemble the social safety net for everyone-- as well as the concept of the common good.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:38 AM
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14. the bigotry of the white kkkristian right-wingers sicken me
These subhuman things have no right to be in our country and we will be better off when they are taken care of finally.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:53 AM
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16. I sense, from overheard comments and conversations, that that is true. nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:02 AM
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17. There's an grave limitation in putting thoughts in your opponents' heads.
They're the first to know if you're wrong.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:05 AM
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18. Cultural Supremacism
Not much different than the racial supremacism of the Nazis, only this wraps race, religion and patriarchy, all into one. They're not shy about it, either. All words and phrases like "core 'murican values," "the heartland," and "moral people," are just code for "cultural supremacism."

I believe most of this comes down to fear of the "other." Other countries, other religions, other races, etc.

I think that it's OK to have these beliefs -- as all people have an amalgam of beliefs, some of them, not so nice (for instance, I believe that most Republican voters are sub-human pieces of slime, who I would just as soon wash my hands of than live next to) -- but to use government to enforce them is nothing more than another form of authoritarianism. The pass that the GOP has had, for a long time, is that they've cloked their highly authoritarian, culturally supremacist beliefs through a warped, revised concept of freedom and liberty.

If you look at the real libertarian thinkers -- von Mises, Hayek, Friedman, etc. -- you'll see that, although they hated the "libertines" (which, usually means anything outside what they call the "ancient order," which is white, male-centric and Christian), they always insisted on tolerating them, because they were smart enough to know that the second you started trying to enforce cultural values and order, you no longer have a libertarian society. In essence, they were willing to trade cultural order for a free market. Today's GOP does not have libertarian roots at all, witnessed by their top-down attempted governance of a whole host of moral/social/cultural issues -- even going as far as threatening to amend the Constitution. In addition, their idea of the "free market," isn't free, at all -- neither is their desire to relieve taxes by not building an empire with a money-sucking military and arbitrary war.

The GOP has hidden, for a long time, behind ideals that they do not hold, and words that are meaningless. They are cultural supremacists, empire builders, corporatists and theocrats.

This is why I believe in elitism AND the free market. Elitism, because I, and many other progressives/liberals/anarchists believe in a different kind of social order that, depending on the level of authoritarianism in which one believes can vary from a bureaucratic, top-down state, to self-governance and rugged individualism.

The problem is, the good parts of potential elitism, segregation, free market and individualism have been co-opted, and twisted by the GOP, to be corporate-serving and turns people into automaton authoritarian lap dogs.

Shame, really.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:12 PM
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19. With the way that current demography figures are going in this country
Whites are going to lose their majority sometime later this century.

The pinheaded, fascist neo-nazis were in town last week and they were all upset about this pesky little fact.

It's alreadly happened in California, the trend states of trend states.

It should have happened much sonner.

A multi-cultural America is a better America.
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