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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:29 PM
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Do you remember the first time * and his regime shocked you?
It was not waiting to count the votes in 2000. I couldn't believe they'd leap frog over the will of the people and not count all the votes.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:30 PM
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1. inaguration day, 2000
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:17 PM
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27. Yeah, that is mine, too. I think it was later that same day - during some
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 05:17 PM by calimary
congressional breakfast or something where he uttered the words that sent chills up my spine and a deep sense of forboding to the pit of my stomach: "It'd be a lot easier to govern if this was a dictatorship and I was the dictator."

I was equally shocked that there wasn't a peep out of ANYBODY among the observers, be they Democrats OR media people, taking issue with that statement, or even voicing the tiniest bit of discomfort or misgivings about it. NONE.

All I remember is that when I heard that, a little voice in the back of my head said "uh-oh..."
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:34 PM
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31. and it's only gotten worse
the little voices in the back of all our heads, they are screaming.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:30 PM
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2. That was the first time for me, too.
I think the biggest shocker, and it still gets me, is the preferrential treatment given to Halliburton in a no-bid contract to "rebuild" Iraq.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:32 PM
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3. The fake "WH Trashed" reports
It took over a year just to debunk that little lie.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:33 PM
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4. The day I crossed the Kuwati border...
and realized that if Iraq really had WMD's they wouldv'e used them. Sorry guys I was a little late coming around.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:23 PM
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30. All that matters is that you finally did.
And best of all, you lived to tell the tale. Thank you for your service. GLAD you're here! :toast:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:36 PM
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32. welcome home, thank you for your service
you have nothing to be sorry for.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:33 PM
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5. all the lies during campaign as media said what an honest christian
man he is. not only did he get away with it, but the blatant lying without conscience
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:33 PM
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6. I'm not trying to be dramatic ...
...but, watching him has truly been ONE nightmarish blur. So no "one" or "first" time stands out.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:34 PM
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7. The SC primary 2000
when they found low-life veterans willing to smear John McCain, so desperate were they to crush him. That was also the Bob Jones/push poll/confederate flag primary, when they ditched compassion and went whole hog on the conservative. "Reformer with results"! Remember that shit? :eyes:

Note: Revulsion or disgust are better words than shock to describe my feelings for the Bushists.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:36 PM
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9. same here and i lived in texas at the time and we always
knew Bush was a moron but were a little surprised about how ugly he was in SC.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:39 PM
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13. He did a pretty good job of smearing Ann Richards, so nothing after that
that his campaign did, really shocked me.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:44 PM
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16. i didn't live in Texas then thankfully, i will never forget the words my
husband said to me when i was so horrified Bush was running--"Don't worry Hon, when the rest of the country figures out what a fool he is he'll never get elected" My husband was right, too bad it didn't hold up in court.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:36 PM
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10. I stand corrected ...
...when I claim that no one thing stands out: This was it:puke:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:35 PM
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8. when he laughed about all the people that were executed while he was gov
I think it was during a debate or an interview before the 2000 election.

I knew then he was one sick fuck and it's been downhill from there.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:44 PM
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15. I didn't hear about that until a few years ago
:grr:

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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:37 PM
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11. Rats.
The subliminal messages in the compaign commercials.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:38 PM
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12. That was it for me as well.
I couldn't believe it either, the way they just steamrolled into power in 2000 without waiting for all the votes to be counted. Hell, they stopped the vote count, and that completely stunned me because it went so far beyond anything I could imagine happening in America. I also couldn't believe there weren't millions of people taking to the streets to protest. The rot set in even before the inauguration and it's only become worse since then.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:42 PM
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14. 2000 Presidential primary.
All the lies about John McCain and innuendo about his "black daughter". That seemed unusually base and vicious, and quite beyond the pale. There have been innumerable occasions since, of course.
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:54 PM
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19. The first time I saw him speak, literally
I was a registered Re-pub (didn't vote that way for awhile), till 2000. I was so mad at the 90 + million spent on the Bill Clinton witch hunt that I converted. My point is that, I was not impressed with either party. When I saw, The Bushson, I literally felt my spine tingle and got goose bumps all over. I knew, I was looking at PURE EVIL, since that day, not one thing has even led me to question this instinct.

I have volunteered, donated and worked on Democratic campaigns since. As a former Pennsylvanian, I pray, you guys will get Santorectium out of office.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:22 PM
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29. I'm budgeting now so I can donate as much as possible specifically
to THAT campaign. I'm eager to see a santorectomy, too, and I'm in California.

BTW - congratulations on your epiphany! Your mind is as open as our arms are - to you.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:48 PM
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17. I didn't pay much attention in '99 or '00, and I thought there were
two middle of the road choices -- after all, his Dad had seemed sane. When Ashcroft was appointed Attorney General and all the Holy Roller stuff came out about annointing himself with oil etc. I knew we were in for eight miles of bad road.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:50 PM
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18. I Detested Him Before The 2000 Election Debacle
But the moment that shocked me, and scared the living hell out of me, was during the recount when angry mobs, later to be disclosed to be made up of Republican Congressional staffers in part, were howling at the voting place trying to stop the count. It was at that moment that I considered the head of that mob, George W. Bush, to be guilty of treason. You can not be the head of a cabal intent on the forceful subversion of the Constitution without being guilty of treason in my eye. Everything that has happened since is like counting the jewish corpes after WW-II. At some point it is just the horror, not the number of elements of the horror, that counts. That is how I would sum up Bush's Presidency.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:58 PM
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20. Yep. It was when they came right out of the gate in 2001 saying
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that they would cut off aid to countries with legalized abortion.

The election fraud was more of a big "huh?" for me. If I'd known then what I know now about the Bush Administration, I would not have been so generous with my "conincidence" assumptions.

Do you know what I mean? After watching the way they've ruthlessly stomped all over the law and the ideals of this country over the last few years- all in the name of greed- it's pretty obvious that the 2001 election was stolen.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:59 PM
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21. Talking down the economy to justify tax cuts

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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:12 PM
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22. I was really too naive to understand election 2000 at the time
And I was a big Bush supporter (actually just more politically apathetic) until he started his campaign to declare war on Iraq. That shocked me. I couldn't believe what he was doing, and that the public was behind him. Now I can't believe I ever liked Bush. Up until he started the cowboy rhetoric against Iraq, I thought he was doing a great job. He had handled the US spyplane incident in China with finesse, and 9/11 rallied just about everyone around him, including me. I supported going in to Afghanistan (though not anymore!), but when he decided to declare war on Iraq, that got my attention -- and the whole FASCIST FRIES fiasco! That disgusted me and completely woke me up politically. Bush overplayed his hand with Iraq...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:13 PM
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23. prior to that, when the started talking down the economy
during the campaign, making it clear that they'd screw Murka if it suited their political purposes
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:14 PM
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24. Campaign 2000, first time I really saw Bush
I was shocked at how stupid he was, and how serious the campaign was about such a moron.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:14 PM
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25. I had never heard of him. The first lie I remember him telling was that C
Cheney had not had a heart attack. About ten minutes later, the doctors who took care of Cheney said he HAD suffered a heart attach.

Bush either lied or was so uninformed that he didn't know if Cheney had a heart attack or not. He is a loser either way.

Little portent of his personality and how things would be in the future.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:16 PM
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26. When James Baker showed up in Tallahassee for Team Bush, I knew
we were in BIG trouble.

And we have been ever since.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:18 PM
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28. The Infamous 4 World Leaders Interview
It wasn't that he didn't know the answers, although he certainly should have. (They weren't questions about quantum theory, the question was about heads of state. Maybe the prez to be should have known, huh?)

The thing that made me really worried about him was his response. He looked at a reporter & responded "Do You?" It was really chippy and petulant. I knew on the spot he was a silverspoon brat who had never actually accomplished anything, but merely used family power to stomp on everything in his path.

The worst part is:
1) Of course the reporter knew the answer. How else would he know that Li'l Georgie had the answer right or wrong?
2) The reporter was sitting 2 feet away with a NOTEPAD ON HIS LAP. What were the odds that the answer wasn't written down on the note pad? Practically zero?

So, i realized he was not just a thug and a brat who felt the world owed him something, but if he had an inkling of intellect, he would have realized the last thing he should say was "Do You?"

But, . . . .NO!
The Professor
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