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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:28 PM
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As I was saying...they didn't want you to see that speech
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3967048

The Washington Post is slamming it.

That sapsucker actually cried????!!!!!

Seems like it was pure propoganda (from what I hear, didn't watch).

And the posts here tonight only prove that he had nothing new to offer.

I just hope more than the Washington Post call him on this bullshit effort.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:38 PM
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1. Only one round of applause (that was scripted)...
that totally lacked enthusiasm...no joke.

peace.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:42 PM
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2. FAKE
He cried like I pray to the Great Purple Monkey.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:43 PM
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3. check out NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/opinion/29wed1.html?o...

President Bush's Speech About Iraq

Published: June 29, 2005

President Bush told the nation last night that the war in Iraq was difficult but winnable. Only the first is clearly true. Despite buoyant cheerleading by administration officials, the military situation is at best unimproved. The Iraqi Army, despite Mr. Bush's optimistic descriptions, shows no signs of being able to control the country without American help for years to come. There are not enough American soldiers to carry out the job they have been sent to do, yet the strain of maintaining even this inadequate force is taking a terrible toll on the ability of the United States to defend its security on other fronts around the world.

We did not expect Mr. Bush would apologize for the misinformation that helped lead us into this war, or for the catastrophic mistakes his team made in running the military operation. But we had hoped he would resist the temptation to raise the bloody flag of 9/11 over and over again to justify a war in a country that had nothing whatsoever to do with the terrorist attacks. We had hoped that he would seize the moment to tell the nation how he will define victory, and to give Americans a specific sense of how he intends to reach that goal - beyond repeating the same wishful scenario that he has been describing since the invasion.

Sadly, Mr. Bush wasted his opportunity last night, giving a speech that only answered questions no one was asking. He told the nation, again and again, that a stable and democratic Iraq would be worth American sacrifices, while the nation was wondering whether American sacrifices could actually produce a stable and democratic Iraq.

Given the way this war was planned and executed, the president does not have any good options available, and if American forces were withdrawn, Iraq would probably sink into a civil war that would create large stretches of no man's land where private militias and stateless terrorists could operate with impunity. But if Mr. Bush is intent on staying the course, it will take years before the Iraqi government and its military are able to stand on their own. Most important of all - despite his lofty assurance last night that in the end the insurgents "cannot stop the advance of freedom" - all those years of effort and suffering could still end with the Iraqis turning on each other, or deciding that the American troops were the ultimate enemy after all. The critical challenge is to gauge, with a clear head, exactly when and if the tipping point arrives and the American presence is only making a terrible situation worse.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:52 PM
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8. Now let's see what the spindoctors have to say tomorrow. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:44 PM
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4. And it was clear his own military is not behind him.
One cued applause break. Commentators noted the disconnect between the soldiers and their commander-in-chimp.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:45 PM
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5. This really IS hugh!!!!!!!11111
:hi:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:47 PM
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6. Weren't they told not to applaud though?
I thought I read that here. :shrug: But someone posted that one person kept their hands in their lap when the others clapped and another solider had to nudge another guy to clap.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:49 PM
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7. The Houston Chronicle reporter said:
They were told to tone it down but it clearly wan't the response the White House was counting on.
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