Please DU this poll-- Do you think there should be a timeline for withdra

[Douglas Carpenter]

Do you think there should be a timeline to pull troops out of Iraq?

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[Qanisqineq]

1. No

No timeline. Just pull them out ASAP.

[EFerrari]

2. Done. 73% yes. n/t

[upoceg]

3. 77% now

[newyawker99]

24. Hi upoceg!!

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[upoceg]

26. thanks newyawker99

I've been lurking since the election, finally signed up, and i couldn't be happier that i did.

[Broken_Hero]

4. They should pull out...

We have been there for over two years, we can train enough hard core iraqi drill instructors to pass that knowledge onto others, when that happens get the hell out of there, let the country fight for itself. Its funny, the RW is a fan of thworing around the "Pick yourself up by your bootstraps, and we do everything on our own" yet they are doing just about everythign to hand democracy, or whatever to the Iraqis. If the Iraqis want the freedom, let them fight it, and in the words of Pink Floyd "Bring the Boys back home"...

[Richard Steele]

5. Voted at 3:04 am EST; 74.2% YES

[Erika]

6. done n/t

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

7. No. An artificial timetable is a disastrous idea.

If we lay out an artificial timetable, the terrorists will simply wait us out, and strike the Iraqis once we leave. It sends the wrong message. We cannot leave until the mission is done, until the Iraqis are trained and can take over.

BTW, it's not just Bush saying this. Wes Clark, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi agree with this.

[Richard Steele]

9. You should use quotes when you cut-n-paste that RW dogma.

PS: Joe Biden?
R-O-friggin'-F-L, dude!
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If Joe Biden is your REFERENCE, you are at the wrong site!

This is a board for DEMOCRATS!

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

12. Dude, are you serious?

Did you even look at what you just wrote? Joe Biden not a Democrat? WTF!? Does that go for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, also? Get a hold of yourself.

BTW, you joined on November 12th of last year. I've been here since 2001, pal.

[LightningFlash]

15. Joe Biden= DLC...

Nancy Pelosi, same thing. None of their word should be trusted.

Dean said it best, we have a huge problem on our hands. We just need to get to the bottom line of all the lies on downing street quickly, and then decide how to hold them accountable.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

18. Can't be trusted? I just have to disagree. n/t

[nonconformist]

13. You mean as opposed to what they're doing now?

Frequent attacks on American troops and Iraqi civilians?

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

16. If we leave, it only gets worse.

It's a Heck of a conundrum. Our presence there in many ways fuels the terrorist threat, but if we leave without finishing the mission, they win anyway. We have to be honest about the threat, but not leave before it's time.

[nonconformist]

17. There's no way to "finish" the mission

People said the same about Vietnam until the very end of that hopeless fiasco too.

Iraq is going to break into civil war whether we leave now or 15 years from now. That's just historical precedence talking. Not to mention you're relying on the people who caused this mess - people who everything they touch turns to SHIT - to be the ones to get it "finished".

[shadowknows69]

23. What's the fukin mission again?

Last night it was apparently to fight the entire war on terror on iraqi soil "central front" no matter that we have to devastate the country we're trying to rebuild over and over again in order to do that. We have an unlimited supply of soldiers and money right? The Iraqi people don't mind. They're freer than they were under saddam. Even when we accidently kill them. Come on. we need to pull out now and offer whatever financial and humanitarian help we can but through agencies that the iraqis will welcome. Things will get worse for a while without us but ultimately when the Iraqis get smart enough, hungry enough or sick of civil war enough to "ASK" for help in building a new Iraq then it will finally be an Iraq by the Iraqi people. It will never work under occupation.

[Douglas Carpenter]

8. well, I guess between # 1 and #7 I am the moderate

Most of the so-called "terrorist" are Iraqi's--Most Iraqi's want us to leave--but I agree it has to be both quickly and sytematic. Undoubtedly there will almost certainly be an increase in inter-Iraqi fighting when the occupation forces leave--but--that will be true whether it is 90 days from now or 90 years from now...

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[Douglas Carpenter]

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[LightningFlash]

14. It'll actually report REAL news!!!!

And its a first step for many of us, I've always wanted to learn what the hell was going on in Korea or elsewhere. Did anyone know they have a permanent invasion army over there? :shrug:

Just wondering what all anyone's heard. I've heard North Korea is getting ready to attack the South and no one's stopping them really.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

19. done!

:kick:

[Disturbed]

20. If we leave, it only gets worse.

How much worse can it get?

If the Occupation ends no more Amerikan troops will get killed &/or maimed. Iraq will take care of itself as it has for the last 4K years.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

22. Any sign of a timetable would have helped.

Instead, we got the sad same old. We will leave when we are asked to, and the "mission" is finished. The "mission" has to include How It Ends W, unless of course there is no plan to leave.

Hmmm.

[sandnsea]

21. milestones, benchmarks, mile markers

Anything but a date certain timetable. We don't have to make that argument, so why even bother with it? We need goals that are clearly defined, we can get the American people behind that, why not just use the milestones and benchmarks terminology?

[Gothmog]

25. done