Fundie "logic" never ceases to amaze me.

[MercutioATC]

We were having a political discussion at work yesterday and one of my fundamentalist co-workers said that he had a problem with gays trying to get "special rights". I tried to explain that it wasn't a matter of special rights, but equal protection under the law (which wouldn't even have to be legislated if people weren't so stupid). He wouldn't hear it.

He then asked me if I would let my son go on a Boy Scout camping trip with a scout leader who was gay. After explaining that I wouldn't let my son join the Boy Scouts in the first place, I told him that I wouldn't have a problem with it. He said I was "seriously messed up".

I tried to explain to him that being gay and being a pedophile were two different things. Again, he wouldn't hear it.

I'm straight. I'm also agnostic. Try as I might, I can't understand the thought process that fundies use to equate homosexuality with things like pedophilia. Personally, sexual orientation makes zero difference to me but I respect the right of others to have a moral objection to it. This goes beyond a moral objection. It actually tries to draw a parallel between two separate issues that have no statistical bearing on each other.

What in the hell makes people do this?

[Spinzonner]

1. What they can't understand - or often accept - is people who

are not like them. Or at least as much like themselves as to be familiar.

ANyone who doesn't fit into that framework becomes an outsider and when your 'inside' is seen in your world view as the one true way for life and the afterlife, it's not a far jump to see the others as various forms of evil incarnate. This also makes it easy for them to dispense with any nuance or reasoning. If you are one form of evil, you might as well be all.

[MercutioATC]

2. I think there's something to that.

He kept saying that gays didn't lead "moral lives". It was almost like being gay automatically made them immoral in EVERY way.

Strange birds, those fundies...

[w13rd0]

4. Yeah, takes a "moral man" like Ken Lay to embezzle millions...

...and symbolicly club the aged for a buck. Or "moral men" like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. to launch a war based on lives that results in tens of thousands of needless deaths. What the hell do these jackboots know of morals?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. you've got to be taught hate and fear

I think people who believe this misinformation were taught this from a very early age. When I was a kid, homosexuality was mostly in the closet, underground, as was pedophilia. So not much was known about either. When a girl was sexually abused back then, well, that was a man showling his manliness-that was the thought in some circles. But when a boy was molested-well, that is what EVERY homosexual does! Both attitudes are wrong, but they are there and have been there for a long time.

[wakeme2008]

5. I guess he does not read the paper

Most pedophiles are straight... If you discount the male priests in organized religion.

[Shoeempress]

6. With absolutely no evidence to support my theory, I think people

become Fundies because they have no self control in at least some part of their lives and need a strong external control to keep themselves in line. They can't imagine how anyone can have self control from within and thus think anyone who is not a Fundie is immoral.

[Island Blue]

9. I think you're right about that one

Most fundies I know were pretty damn wild "back in the day" and I think they either need outside control to avoid backsliding, or they are trying to make amends to Jaysus for the perceived sins of their past.

[Ganja Ninja]

7. The same idiot probably has a porn stash that ...

would get him arrested. These people are fakes and phonies.

[KG]

8. never bother trying to enlighten fundies, RWers and other assorted idiots

there's gotta be better, more productive ways to waste your time.

[rasputin1952]

10. The worst 'sin' is hypocrisy, if we go by how many times it is

mentioned in the NT. But fundies also pick and choose from the OT, generally when something is negative about others and their lifestyles.

For those who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus, there certainly is a lack of compassion, empathy, forgiveness, caring and any of the other positive aspects of Christian tenets.IMO, anyone who uses the Scriptures to foster hate and sow the seeds of discord, are about as far from the teachings of Jesus as one can get.

It is sad to have witnessed one of the worlds great religions hijacked by goons that cannot control themselves...Islam has the same problem, btw. Many of the leaders in both of these belief systems are so filled with hate they will ever see straight. There are many, lesser voices to be sure, that understand that religion should be a haven of peace and justice, not a boiling kettle of hatred and bigotry.

Sadly, the Phelps', Robertson's, Osama's and Khomeini's will never understand the damage they have done to the great religions of the world...:(

[tenshi816]

11. "Fundie logic" is an oxymoron.

In fact, fundie logic doesn't exist. It's as unreal as leprechauns and unicorns.

Trying to argue with a fundie is pointless because they can't think for themselves. That's their pastor's job, that whole thinking business, and all the little fundie sheep do is repeat what they're told to believe.