Limbaugh claimed that "liberals seek the defeat of the military"

[maxrandb]

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506280007

Ok! I know that Limbaugh is an "Ass-pickle" This however is near and dear to my heart.

For quite some time now, the Department of Defense, through Armed Forces Radio, has given Rush an avenue to spew his hate.

I'm active duty military, and a "proud liberal". I've tried til I'm blue in the face to get some action from my two Repuke Ohio Senators to take action to remove this stain from Armed Forces Radio.

I don't know what more proof is needed to make the point that his program on Armed Forces Radio is destroying "good order and discipline". Suppose the guy in the foxhole next to me is a Rush Limbaugh listener? Who does he now point his rifle at.

This is serious shit, and MUST BE STOPPED!!!

"From the June 27 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I actively think that liberals seek the defeat of the military. I think they're happy. I think liberals get excited when the military doesn't work because they have a general pacifist view of everything. They think the use of the American military is always unjust, uncalled for, unwise, and unfair, being that we're the only superpower. And any time we take it on the chin, I think they're happy because it allows them to say, "See, this doesn't work."

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. Divide and blame

that's all assholes like wartass knows how to do.

[LightningFlash]

What a god damn crazy asshole.....

This punk needs to get his but to the war and stop preaChing bullshit. :mad: :mad:

If he thinks its so good, go fucking join instead of blaming liberals who did nothing to the asshole. They did nothing but speak the truth and ended up correct. Kook run conny....

[Proud2BAmurkin]

27. It's just drug addict ramblings to be ignored

blather.

[liberal N proud]

2. The repukes have been claiming that for years

It is one of the false planks of the republican party
Make America believe the Democrats will destroy the military.


But who is it that is closing military installations?
The fucking repukes.

[Harry S Truman]

3. Find this SOB

Let's get a few men on him. I swear this fat puke should wind up in an alley someplace. No one would miss him. No one.

[LightningFlash]

5. Open house in Texas: "It's huntin season on connies...."

:evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Just jokin'.......No one wants to dirty their hands and fall down to the level of a crazy conni, who blames liberals for everything. Even if they deserve it or whatever else...

[leveymg]

4. Rush would like the military to blame anyone but Bush

But, you know better.

[Tamarin]

6. I wish you luck, I would like to see his brand of hate speech

removed from Armed Forces Radio also. I'm so sick of his invoking the nameless *liberals*. I think we should begin demanding the names of the *liberals* from Rush, Hannity, et.al.

[LightningFlash]

7. Good suggestion. n/t

[maxrandb]

10. Seriously

How is this not detrimental to good order and discipline. Say for example you have a "known liberal" marine. His buddy in the field hears Rush say that "liberals want more Americans killed and want to destroy the military".

Who then becomes the enemy???? Would the Rush listener point his rifle at the insurgents, or the "liberal".

That may be an extreme case, but then again, so was Timothy McVeigh. I believe Mcveigh had a highlighted copy of Rush's "The Way it Ought to Be" in his car when he was cought.

His show is a terrible blow to unit cohesiveness and good order and discipline. It should have no place on Armed Forces Radio.

[rasputin1952]

8. Limbaugh always has a lot to say about a military he never served

a day in. Strange how I know many who served with pride and dignity, that HID maladies for the privilege to serve..none of the Chickenhawks have any of the integrity that any of those who DO serve, yet you'd think they would be the first to offer themselves or their sons and daughters to the "cause"...It is shameful.

He tends to forget that FDR and Truman were Liberals that saw us through WWII...but that doesn't count...:shrug:

[enkidu2]

9. moreover

One of the reasons we came so late to WW2 was that republican members of congress interferred with FDRs attempts to help the allies

[LightningFlash]

11. Many of the congress critters were fascists back then....

...Republicans and Democrats both. We have not learned so much after all these years.....It's time for a strong leader to come forward and change this! Come on Dean! :mad:

[July]

12. Yeah, a right-wing reactionary knows all about how liberals think.

STFU, junkie.

[Zenlitened]

13. Recommended. I'm writing to my reps in Congress...

... asking them to take steps to get this Tokyo Rose off Armed Forces Radio.

[johnnie]

14. Rush is a drug addict and is facing felony charges

Why anyone wants to listen to him is beyond me. Liberals support the troops and we are anti-war, not anti-troop. For some reason these repukes want to destroy our military by spreading lies just so they can "win" at all cost. They don't give a shit about these men and women who are over there risking their lives as long as they can make cash on the war and "prove a point". Rush doesn't give a shit about anyone in the military, he makes a lot of money and he is loving it.
Here ya go Rush, you asshole:

[shanti]

15. look at his comment

he "thinks" all this shit about the liberals. that's all it is - opinionated bullshit, but his fans lap it up and take it as FACT.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. Well, Junkie Has Spoken

I guess he sure told us. Of course, we can't be sure he remembers what he said, given all the painkillers he abuses.
The Professor

[KharmaTrain]

17. A Couple Observations...

First, through the marvels of modern technology, I am able to tune into various AFRTS radio stations in Europe and listen to what programming they're feeding. These broadcasts used to be broadcast via shortwave, but now are only via satallite and these broadcasts are all but unavailable to listen to within the U.S.

Yes, they run at least an hour (I've caught "Best Ofs" that went longer) every day, but AFRTS also does air All Things Considered and Morning Edition...not super liberal, but far more balanced than the drivel they hear from the Oxy Contin boy.

One rationalization I've heard about why Rushbo stays on AFRTS is the large audience numbers he has. The network (this is one of several...there are others that are just music) supposedly offers the most popular radio programs, as the television service shows the most popular TV shows. Since Rushbo claims to have 20 million listeners, this ranks up there...thus the justification used to keep him on the air.

Keep in mind, the syndicator, Premier, is owned by Clear Channel, who is owned by Lowrey Mayes and Tom Hicks...very good buddies with their little Texas Ranger. They'll switch Faux off in the messes before they'll yank Rushbo off AFRTS. Maybe, the better track would be to see if they could include an hour of one of several Progressive talk hosts each day...and not just AAR personalities.

[LightningFlash]

18. Sad but true....

This is why many republican army recruits have such a strong hate for liberals is by listening to this idiot all day long. :puke: On top of that, he actually makes his listeners think all this stuff is fact.

[maxrandb]

20. I Had A Brave Commander During the Clinton Years

We worked in a large office. Basically a bunch of "cube-rats". Anyway, several people used to tune in to Rush everyday from 12-3. The Commander decided that since Rush was slandering and defaming the Commander in Chief on a daily basis, his show was "inappropriate" for a military installation. Folks either switched to something else, or were required to listen to Rush with headphones.

Now...if he was not acceptable during the Clinton years. Why is he acceptable now???

[LightningFlash]

25. Umm because that is what Rush does...

He supports only republicans with blind patriotism. And he would never slander * who makes him giddy. :wow:

[maxrandb]

19. But Isn't the Difference

that AFRTS is "publicly" funded entertainment for the military? I would not have as big a problem with the "pig-boy" on AFRTS if people actually had an option to choose something else, or if my tax dollars weren't being spent to provide an avenue for Rush to basically say "I hate America".

The programming on AFRTS is limited enough. Having a right-wing propagandist that daily describes 100's of thousands of people in the military as "traitors" or "Terrorist sympathizers" is going way beyond the pale. I'm not asking for balance.

I don't want a left-wing person on AFRTS spending an hour each day telling the troops how much "conservatives hate America" and are just a bunch of "racist Nazi's".

My point is that a captive audience should not be subjected to something so divisive that it harms unit cohesion and morale.

And make no mistake about it. My fellow Sailors have no doubt that I am a proud liberal. I am being slandered on a daily basis by a man being supported by MY tax dollars, and MY Department of Defense.

[KharmaTrain]

22. We're Not Quite Funding Rushbo

I'm coming from a long background in broadcasting and not trying to defend AFRTS carrying this gas bag, I'm as much against them airing his bile as much as any other right wing hag bag. I'm just attempting to explain what is being done.

BTW...his show is aired around 6pm or so on the AFRTS station in Munich...probably later in Iraq...not quite the same audience tuning in. My bets are these are the die-hard dittoheads who would be listening here as much as they want to hear him there.

We're not subsidizing Rushbo as all AFRTS does is relays his Premier hatefest. They, Premier, pay for the production and pay Rushbo...AFRTS just plucks it off a satellite...and all we pay for is the electrons send to send it into the ether. Rushbo wouldn't be able to keep his oxy habit alive for one day with the money spent on putting his show on AFRTS.

I agree with your prime point that you detest the slandering of Liberals and Progressives...the daily misrepresentation of our views, the facts and reality by a propagandist. Inversely, I know it would be an insult to subject someone who had contrary views to mine to a steady diet of DU GD threads (that's real torture! LOL). However, right now, I think this is a battle for the hearts and ears of many in our service and that they need to hear there's a united alternative...ones who can say aloud only what they can think...and for this, some Progressive Radio on AFRTS would be a welcome addition.

Cheers

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

29. Howard Stern, who has a huge audience and came out against shrub in 04,

has gigantic audience numbers too. Is AFRTS carrying him?

[KharmaTrain]

30. No Stern...But They Do Carry Tom Joyner.

Here's the station I spy on outside Munich:

12:00AM 6:00AM Power Network Programming
6:00AM 9:00AM Morning Jumpstart
9:00AM 12:00PM Country Music
12:00PM 2:00PM The Pit (An Alternative to the Norm)
2:00PM 3:00PM Power Network Programming
3:00PM 6:00PM The Rollout
6:00PM 7:00PM Rush Limbaugh
7:00PM 8:00PM Bright Adult Contemporary
8:00PM 10:00PM The Tom Joyner Show
10:00PM 12:00AM The Touch


Here's the link to that station:

http://www.afneurope.net/Wuerzburg/programming.asp

Also here's a link to the entire network...every base can program their stations differently and pick up different programs.

http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/affiliates/

To my knowledge no one carries Stern, and based on the popularity factor, there's no reason one hour of his show shouldn't be. Howard's first hour is generally serious and not full of the boys locker room stuff...who knows, maybe that's what's needed, too.

Cheers...

[SalmonChantedEvening]

21. He also said he had a bad back while

playing the back nine at Pebble Beach...

So grains of salt the size of beachballs apply here.

[vickie]

23. This fat, puffed up blathering hypocrit really is losing it....

[vickie]

24. This fat, puffed up blathering hypocrit really is losing it....

[tabasco]

26. He won't say it to my face.

Airborne Ranger with two combat tours.

Let that fat piece of shit say shit to me and he will find out just how tough liberals can be.

Fucking cowards calling brave men names. Punks like Limbaugh are beneath contempt. Limbaugh is the scum of the Earth.

[Catrina]

31. You are correct

Rush Limbaugh is the worst kind of coward. He would cry like a baby if you confronted him and asked him to repeat his vile, treasonous attacks on liberal patriots, such as yourself, to your face! Thank you for your service! :patriot:

Rush Limbaugh is Karl Rove's mouthpiece. Another cowardly, draft dodger, who made the mistake of doing his own talking last week and appears to be now in hiding.

However, I do not believe that he should be dismissed. Dismissing him and his ilk for over a decade was one of the biggest mistakes made by Democrats, imo.

Last year, AIRC, the Senate voted unanamously against having his show being the only one soldiers get to hear. What happened to that?

Imo, there ought to be a campaign of Liberal veterans and active duty soldiers demanding to meet with Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove face to face to debate them on their slanderous attacks on the patriotism of liberals and the patriotism of all Democrats.

Even if they refuse, making it a loud, well advertised challenge, to put to rest these continued attacks once and for all, would show them up for what they are.

A Town Hall Meeting on national television, with Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh facing off against people like you would finish them off once and for all, imo. Why they have been allowed to get away with this for so long is a mystery to me.

Let them be exposed for the entire country to see. Set up the meeting, and then wait for them to show up. Ask them to bring proof of their willingness to fight for their country when they had the chance ~ it would be worth donating money to expose them this way, imo. I would take bets on them not showing up.

Ignoring them has allowed the false concept that all liberals are unpatriotic to prevail, and to demonize the word 'liberal'. It's time to make them put up or shut up, imo and use them to reclaim the word liberal.

And yes, I agree that this kind of talk can endanger liberals in the military and needs to be dealt with, imo.

On second thought, the national media would most likely not do this. But Randi Rhodes might. She is a liberal talkshow host who also served in the military. She could provide a venue for them. If they refuse to show up, then she and the liberal military personel who are there ready to face them, can spend the hour listing the reasons why they were too cowardly to serve in the military. I am sick of these people.

[bribri16]

28. I think you would do well to send this to Conyers and other true Dems

in the Congress, House and Senate. Sens, Byrd, Kennedy,and Boxer come to mind. Representatives, Conyers, Waters, Kucinich, Lee, and Jackson-Lee come to mind in the House.

[AndreaCG]

32. That's why Democrats are seeking 1 billion more for vets

cause they hate the military.

[Dr Fate]

33. Then start encouraging your of-age Republican listeners to enlist.

Stop pointing fingers and DO SOMTHING you pill freak.

[radar]

34. And it doesn't get censored...?

Pundits saying that liberals should stay quiet & not criticize; yet, the broadcasts of these pundits gets heard, uncensored, by the troops in the field to show the troops listening/watching, that the country isn't united about this "war on terror."

Way to keep the morale up, Rush! Consequences be damned!