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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:10 AM
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Dem's Defend Bush's Speech...
Oh hell...


From the AP

<snip>

Beyond their criticism, Some Democrats said they thought Bush strengthened his credibility. "I think he told the American people why it's important," said Biden.

Said Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.: "The president needs to do more of what he did last evening. This is a beginning."

/snip
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:13 AM
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1. Will they NEVER learn?!?!?!
:banghead:

We like really need to consider making all Dems go through some kind of training on when to open the trap or keep the trap shut. Geez.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:13 AM
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2. What a damn shocker!!! The DLC tells us how it is....
Biden, Dodd, and the DINOs fall out of woodlock to show their true colors..... :mad: :mad: :mad:

Those sick crapass corporate elite DINO freaks. I am so sick of Biden I'd get rid of him right now for loving these wars, except the voting machine in his district votes one way.......

:banghead:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:15 AM
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3. How the F did the chimPOS strenghten his whatever they call it?
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 07:16 AM by pinniped
Unless the POS learned some new words, all that crap he said over the past 2+ years was just mixed up and reworded for that lame speech yesterday.

And I didn't even have to see that Ahole on tv or hear that Ahole on the radio to know that.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:16 AM
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4. The DLC doesn't care for the common man....
They care for the corporate paycheck, of Halliburton and the big boys. :evilgrin:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:19 AM
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5. Why is anyone surprised by anything that Biden (NeoCon-LA) has to say?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:19 AM
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6. Boy are they stupid!
If they can't say something critical, they should say nothing at all.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:19 AM
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7. I guess neither of these guys have any presidential ambitions.
Unless it is on the Republican ticket.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:21 AM
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8. Like a moth to the flame.
Get educated on the whole history of these guys:

http://www.prospect.org/print-friendly/print/V12/7/dreyfuss-r.html
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:26 AM
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10. The DLC is the Repuke Fifth Column? eom
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:21 AM
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9. biden sucking up to the chimp? gee, who didn't see that coming?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:29 AM
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11. So where in the hell is our leadership
They should call a spade a spade and not a fu**in shovel.
The speech was entirely lame and Biden or Dodd should be smart enough to see it and smear this liar in chief.

Lettertime! :argh:
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:31 AM
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12. Our leadership's response...
News From House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi
H-204, The Capitol, Washington D.C. 20515

http://democraticleader.house.gov

Tuesday, June 28, 2005

Pelosi Statement on Bush Speech on Iraq

Washington, D.C. - House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement tonight in response to the President's speech on the war in Iraq, and his failure to provide the American people with strategy for success:

"The President missed an opportunity tonight for straight talk to the American people. He would have done more to honor the sacrifices of the brave men and women of the 'All-American' Division before whom he spoke had he given all Americans specifics about a strategy for success in Iraq.



"The President's frequent references to the terrorist attacks of September 11 show the weakness of his arguments. He is willing to exploit the sacred ground of 9/11, knowing that there is no connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq.



"As the President noted, it is only one year after the return of sovereignty, but it has been 27 months since the President launched his pre-emptive strike. Iraq is now what it was not when the war began - a magnet for terrorism - because the President invaded Iraq with no idea of what it would take to secure the country after Baghdad fell. The insurgency took root in the unstable conditions that have now existed in substantial parts of Iraq for far too long.



"The American people understand what is at stake in Iraq and in the Middle East. That is why it is so disappointing that the President failed tonight, as he has failed consistently since the war began, to lay out specifics for success, including performance benchmarks.



"Regrettably, the President did not address key questions that must be answered: What will it take to train the Iraqi security forces to a level that will allow them to conduct combat operations without the assistance of our troops? How will reconstruction be done a priority so that electricity flows regularly, people are put to work, and Iraqis see a future in which they have a stake? When will diplomacy be employed effectively so that leaders in the region know that we recognize that their assistance is crucial to taking pressure off our troops and to fashioning an inclusive political process in Iraq?



"Our commitment in Iraq does not have to be measured by timetables, but neither can it be open-ended. The President must still do what he did not do tonight: lay out clearly the task that remains for the United States in Iraq and how it is to be accomplished."



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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:57 AM
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16. That's more like it
Thanks Nancy for speaking for us!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:32 AM
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13. I will NEVER vote for Biden.. if he ends up on the ticket
I'll vote 3rd party.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:34 AM
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19. I might do the same
The guy is a sleaze. I don't like him.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:38 AM
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14. this is a misleading post. biden said a lot of what bush did wrong
i didnt hear dodds, but i heard biden in cnn. that was the only complimentary thing biden said about bush. the rest of bidens time was saying what bush didnt say and what he needed to say and how he fell short. and that bush needed tome to get this right. (i know many disagree with the we broke it we fix it)

i watch very little news. so i am dependent on du to regurgitate what is said. but this is totally misleading

biden didnt trash bush. but he certainly didnt fall in his camp either

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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:57 AM
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15. As much as I respect Howard Dean for what he is doing
when I hear crap like this spewing out of the likes Biden and Dodd I am very reluctant to continue to make contributions to the Democratic party. Howard is spinning up a formidable cash raising tool, but if Democratic leaders are going to give us the same old Republican lite bullhockey, my money is staying home.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:32 AM
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18. Please don't even compare Chris Dodd to Howard Dean....
One stands for the actual common man and the DNC, the other stands for corporate interests. :puke:

Go check out what the REAL democratic party is doing!!!!

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/06/when_does_he_wa.php

:patriot:
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:40 AM
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21. I am not comparing the two at all
I believe in what Howard is doing, and want to support his efforts. But the likes of Dodd and Biden are undermining what he is doing. I won't support them.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:28 AM
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17. Dodd said that?
:wtf:

Sounds more like Lieberman.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:39 AM
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20. Okay, Biden ... check! Dodd... Check! These 2 are checked right off my
list of Dems to support.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:41 AM
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22. you might actually listen to what biden said if you
want to know facts. they are not represented very well in this post. it wasnt as bad as stated here. dodd i dont know, i didnt hear
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:42 AM
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23. Biden loves to hear Biden and actually thinks that others do.
The Mouth-that-Never-Closes from Delaware really believes that he has something to say and that people pay attention to what he says without rolling their eyes.

He only proves that hair plugs and shiny teeth do not provide integrity as a side effect.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:45 AM
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24. somebody duck tape biden's pie hole shut please!
n/t
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