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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:30 PM
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KKKarl just sent some smoke signals to the Freeptards (CON TALKING POINTS)
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 03:46 PM by Goldmund
They've had an avalanche of threads re-stating the supposed Saddam-9/11/Al Qaeda link starting at 3:58 PM Eastern. ALL OF THESE have been posted only in the last half hour:

Bin Laden and Iraq (What the Media Said in the 90's)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433343/posts

1999 ABC News Report : The Osama - Hussein Connection
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433339/posts

Tape Shows General Clark Linking Iraq and Al Qaeda
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433337/posts

Pessimism Is Not A Policy... (Iraq's terrorist connections) (This one was posted by the head honcho, JimRob)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433332/posts

Saddam + Bin Laden? -- Newsweek Article from 1999 reporting bin Laden - Saddam ties
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433328/posts

It’s All About 9/11 The president links Iraq and al Qaeda — and the usual suspects moan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433321/posts



I smell desperation. Seems their strategery is going to be to try to prop up this ole dead horse.


On edit:

More in the last 5ish mins:


The Missing Link (What the Senate Ingelligence Report Said about Iraq/AQ Connections)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433350/posts

GOP Lawmaker: Saddam Linked to 9/11 ('Evidence is Clear')
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433348/posts


Another edit:

Here's another one, 4:45 EDT:

9/11 Families Sue Iraq in Federal Court - Iraq Involved in 9/11
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433359/posts
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:31 PM
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1. the smell of that dead horse is amazing, ain't it?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:58 PM
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35. Yes, and that dead horse smells worse the more
they beat it with that broken stick.

Redstone
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:32 PM
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2. I was going around the radio dial in the wee hours
And Bill Bennet was doing the same thing on his radio show. Conflating the two is the order of the day.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:33 PM
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3. Make it so, Number One.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:33 PM
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4. Just looked at some
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 03:44 PM by ewagner
of the links....have to shower anyway, might as well stop in at FR...

everything linked in either out of context or suppositions (e.g. Iraq may be talking to AQ)



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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:34 PM
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5. Conveniently left out is the fact that OBL considered SH an infidel and
wanted him dead. Good thing his old buddy GWB made that dream come true.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:38 PM
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6. Wes to the rescue
again...

"Certainly there's a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda," he said in 2002.

:eyes:
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:38 PM
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7. Yeah..yeah...if you say it enough times it must be true....
*shees.h.....Beyond that, it is classic "dont look over here" move. It doesn't matter if it is true or not, that is not the point of their posts. The intent is to distract from the incompetent handling of the situation in Iraq post 9/11. With approval for the war in the tank and many repugs starting to agree this has been mishandled... what a better distraction than to go back to those false claims to avoid talking about current facts of the situation.

MZr7


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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:38 PM
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8. "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the Sept. 11"
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 03:41 PM by tridim
Horrible grammar aside, idiotboy himself has already said there's no connection. How the fuck do they explain that? Are they dumping commander cuckoobananas now?
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:38 PM
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9. I had the misfortune of turning the radio dial to Rush Limbaugh
this morning, and he was repeating the same old tired line about the ONE secret meeting that was ALLEDGEDLY held in Prague...blah-be-de-blah-blah-blah...

They are so desperate.

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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:38 PM
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10. I should mosey on over and post this nugget from September 2003.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm

US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks.

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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:45 PM
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15. Do it, watch all the links dissapear and go silent.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:52 PM
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18. I had to register. Signed up for email, too. Could be interesting.
Or sickening.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:54 PM
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22. Let us know when you drop that stink bomb
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:55 PM
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24. Most definitely!
:evilgrin:
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:10 AM
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44. I don't know why the "intellectual equals" comment was made. Maybe it was
my proper use of grammar and punctuation. Most likely it was my polite, respectful attitude.

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To: Emerald Isle
What was your first thought when the WTC was bombed in 1993. I am assuming you can actually think.



29 posted on 06/29/2005 4:49:09 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Emerald Isle
Answer the question.



31 posted on 06/29/2005 4:58:16 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Emerald Isle
Guess you weren't thinking back in '93. Huh?
LOL.
Go to Democratic Underground.
Them's your "intellectual" equals, matey.




32 posted on 06/29/2005 5:25:07 PM PDT by No One Special

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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:35 AM
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46. Funny how your question set them off
"No self-respecting Freeper would ever bring up this question, no matter how obvious".
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:54 PM
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23. They will just say that the BBC has liberal bias
and ignore all the facts per usual.


RW'ers are on fire today spewing that we will lose this war because of the dissenters. They falsely assume that only liberals are against this war.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #23
32. I've used the BBC before
and got the response they were "anti-American". :eyes:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:40 PM
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11. links
Reading some of these, you get the feeling back then that
Clinton had a good knowledge of how to fight Terra,
and none of this would have happened......until GW Bush
gets into office.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:42 PM
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12. This is the best they can do?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:44 PM
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14. Hahaha apparently
:shrug:
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:48 PM
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16. I checked it out
A lot of THEIR posts do not directly point to outside sources but rather point to another post on their own site. I even ran across a few ... "PAGE NOT FOUND"
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:43 PM
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13. Rush & O'Reilly also
That was the talking point on their show today.

The level of delusion is frightening. To believe Iraq/911 you have to believe the entire world, except for Bush supporters is involved in a cover up of the worst act of terrorism in history. The entire world is doing this because they hate Bush so much.


AValdoux
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:48 PM
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17. What I wanna know is if they have some secret ultrasound codes,
like whale mating calls, that OxyMoron and O'Leilly disseminate and then they echo, or if there's a more direct connection (phonecalls or emails).
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:52 PM
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19. Poor RimBob,,,
Fact just escapes that brain of his. al Qaeda was not welcomed in Iraq under Saddam, they only moved there after Bush attacked.

Saudi was the country that most of the 9-11 attackers were from but Bush and RimBobby love to kiss Saudi ass.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:53 PM
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21. I like to refer to him as "RimJob"
:evilgrin:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:57 PM
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25. Well
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 03:57 PM by wakeme2008
:evilgrin: that works to for an ass kisser on SSI...

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:52 PM
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20. Let them shoot themselves in the foot.
The pResident publicly announced there was no relationship.

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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:45 PM
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30. He also never announced there was one
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 04:46 PM by Goldmund
And yet, through these kids of tactics (strongarming of the media an slightly veiled associations) they got a majority of sheeple to believe it, back when the war was starting. Now that's slipped away, and the best they can muster is to try to revive it, IMO.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:59 PM
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26. I heard Rush say he was going to post links on his website
supposedly from an all inclusive list of the links from his "News letter" July 2004.

They really are going to try to rewrite history right in front of everyone's eyes.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:25 PM
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29. Just read through the stuff on Limbaugh's website
most of it is ...in the early to mid-nineties, OBL mentioned that he might want to meet with SH one day, even though he hates him for his secular regime... kind of crap.

Total bullshit - nothing linking SH to 9/11 by several years. What a desperate argument.
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:02 PM
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27. .. Those ignorant.... *Swears.*
I hope they see this and know that Americas children are not going to follow them in their game!

And, if any freeptards are reading this:

**^$&#@^#@^&*(@!#&$^ YOU!!!!
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:19 PM
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28. They should just give it up already
they can't even keep track of their own lies and they think their followers can remember what to say now? It changes every month. I'd love to see the confused faces of the Freeps, lol.

"I'm supposed to say what now?"

"uh, I think you're supposed to say this, no wait, that was last month, now we say this, . . . I, I think. Oh just say libruls hate America, yeah, just say that. That always works."
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:39 PM
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31. Confused Freeper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1433321/posts?page=1

To: No One Special
Okay I'm confused. On 9/11/01 I was SURE that the attacks had to be state sponsored, and my first thought was Saddam. Then everyone said that it was Al Qaida and had nothing to do with Iraq. After that, connections were speculated and then in September of 2003, the President said Saddam was not involved. I feel like I'm on a see-saw. What gives?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm

US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks.



28 posted on 06/29/2005 3:33:06 PM PDT by Emerald Isle
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:13 PM
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37. That was you? n/t
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:05 AM
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43. Yep. I was very polite in my attempt to get an explanation. My posts were
removed by the moderator anyway. Wonder why that happened? :)



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What was your first thought when the WTC was bombed in 1993. I am assuming you can actually think.



29 posted on 06/29/2005 4:49:09 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Emerald Isle
Answer the question.



31 posted on 06/29/2005 4:58:16 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Emerald Isle
Guess you weren't thinking back in '93. Huh?
LOL.
Go to Democratic Underground.
Them's your "intellectual" equals, matey.




32 posted on 06/29/2005 5:25:07 PM PDT by No One Special
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:54 PM
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33. No Evidence Connecting Iraq to Al Qaeda, 9/11 Panel Says - June, 2004
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46254-2004Jun16.html

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 16, 2004; 1:32 PM

There is "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq collaborated with the al Qaeda terrorist network on any attacks on the United States, according to a new staff report released this morning by the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.


Although Osama bin Laden briefly explored the idea of forging ties with Iraq in the mid-1990s, the terrorist leader was hostile to Hussein's secular government, and Iraq never responded to requests for help in providing training camps or weapons, the panel found in the first of two reports issued today.

The findings come in the wake of statements Monday by Vice President Cheney that Iraq had "long-established ties" with al Qaeda, and comments by President Bush yesterday backing up that assertion.

The commission issued its report on al Qaeda's history at the start of a two-day round of hearings this morning. In a separate report on the planning and deliberations for the Sept. 11 plot, the panel cited numerous pieces of FBI evidence in concluding that ringleader Mohamed Atta never met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague on April 9, 2001, as Cheney and some other Bush administration officials have alleged.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:56 PM
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34. I know - even they know - but they are desperate
they are actually citing "Slam-Dunk" Tenet as a source for good information.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:06 PM
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36. kick
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:17 PM
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38. H lied to them too throughout the last few years and now rove wants them
to continue to jump through his hoop. Suckers....
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:25 PM
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39. Good job on pointing out the, er, synchronicity of the timing here. I can
only hope that even though Americans are so susceptible to this crap, that people now know IN THEIR GUT that the whole enterprise is wrong, and a disaster.

Once they have that feeling IN THEIR GUT it's pretty hard to reverse with the same lies.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:32 PM
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40. If they bust out the "Flow Chart O' Magic Saddam Delusion"
please link me.

You know -- it's the one that fingers Saddam for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Great Train Robbery, the death of Nicole Brown Simpson, tornadoes, cardiac arrests, athlete's foot, the invention of the Flo-Bee, and orange juice pulp.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:38 PM
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41. It all comes from delusional AEI hack Laurie Mylroie
who was given lots of think tank dollars to confuse poor freepers. Both Bush and the 9-11 Commission said there was no relationship. You can thank the psy-op program at AEI for all this bullshit.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:50 PM
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42. Well they can try but
that dog don't hunt anymore. Rove is finished, kaput, he ain't going no further.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:10 AM
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45. A day will come
The day when we rise up and finally completely crush these rats. They pollute our country by their presence and we will cleanse our nation of their filth.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:38 PM
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47. NINE threads on that in forty-five minutes?
DAMN. I can smell the desperation all the way over here.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:39 PM
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48. Calling Bush a Liar, are they?
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