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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:00 PM
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Al Gore + Fortunate Son
I was looking up the song Fortunate Son. On one of the websites I went to a person said the fortunate son in the song was Al Gore. Do the members of DU think Al Gore was the target of the reference fortunate son or was it someone or did it apply to all the children of those in Congress and in the White House? Before I starting writing this post I had the thought that the reference might have to the George W. Bush. I think his dad my have been a senator at that time. My only problem with the reference being to Gore is that he actually served in Vietnam so why would the reference by to him. I know his dad was in the senate, but that did not prevent him from going to Vietnam. It seems more like it would be directed at the children of the politicians who did not have to serve in Vietnam.
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Mark Williams Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:02 PM
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1. no
If I'm correct Creedence Clearwater Revival originally wrote the song. It was written during the Vietnam war. Personally I think its a great song.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:03 PM
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2. Fortunate Son is a book on * by the late James Hatfield
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:03 PM
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3. I don't think the song was about a specific person, but Gore
didn't serve in Vietnam, did he? I thought he went there as a journalist. I'm sure if I'm wrong, I'll be corrected.
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:04 PM
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4. Gore did serve in Vietnam
He was in the military as a public information officer, but he was in the military.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:06 PM
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8. see what I mean. I knew I would be corrected. Actually, I knew
he went as a journalist, but couldn't recall if he ever enlisted. But, the song still isn't directed to him which is the OP's question. :D
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:10 PM
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9. Read the lyrics and tell that "someone" they are wrong :-)
Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",
oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no senator's son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no,

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman come to the door,
Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no millionaire's son.
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no.

Yeh, some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
ooh, they send you down to war, Lord,
And when you ask them, how much should we give,
oh, they only answer, more, more, more, yoh,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no military son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no no no,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate son, no no no,

- John C, Fogerty
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:04 PM
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5. He served in the Army as a journalist
:)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:05 PM
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6. I think that if anyone really looks at the two men - it is obvious that
Gore is a man and was one at 20. He had his own career and went to Vietnam. Bush on the other hand put off adulthood by snorting coke for 20 years. Even then he couldn't land a job and succeed at it unless it was 'given' to him.

We know the truth. Let's hope the freepers are learning how to be more discerning instead of falling for the America Myth and voting against their own best interests.They have been encouraged to 'grow down' and be more adolescent. Thing is adolescence isn't as much fun to live when you are an adult and have issue you need solved and kids who want a future.


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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:14 PM
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10. you mean just "land a job": he's actually never succeeded,
just bailed out on inflated stock bought out by Daddy's friends
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:27 PM
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11. This propaganda fits with the GOP plan to make the Liberals the elites
while hiding their own complicity with elite corporations and some of the wealthiest families.

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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:06 PM
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7. If it fits any category - it's the sons of the wealthy who received
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 08:07 PM by ElectroPrincess
assignments into Champagne National Guard Units that were NOT slotted to deploy to Vietnam.

Does that remind you of anyone in particular? ;)

Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:32 PM
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12. Jesus Christ, don't you think that website could be spreading yet another
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 08:33 PM by Redstone
Stupid Freeper Right-Wing Attempted Smear of a Lie?

Just maybe?

Al Gore as the "fortunate son" in that song? You'd have to be either 1) really fucking gullible, or 2) a really fucking gullible right-winger, to even give it a momen'ts consideration.

Spare me. Just think for a minute, would you? The right-wingers don't need any help spreading this kind of bullshit around.

Redstone
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:39 PM
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13. One Persons Comment
It is not a right-winger website. It is a song website that allows people to comment on songs. There were other people on the site bashing Bush. In addition, I may have made a mistake when I first posted the comment. The person may have commented that the reference to senator's son was to Al Gore. However, if you read my full comment you would see that I pointed out that I did not think the reference was to Gore in that he actually served in Vietnam. I just made the post in order to get the comments from other DU members. Some of you people who insult people when they make a post need to calm down and think. I am not gullible, I just wanted to get the opinion of other people on the issue. You might also want to look at the fact that in the post I also pointed out that I thought the reference of fortunate son was to Bush. I may have even pointed out that I thought his (Bush's) father was in the senate at the time.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:43 PM
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14. Ditcher-of-Planes-Poppy Was NEVER a Senator, O.K.?
Perhaps we need Paula "Chucky" ZAHN's biography here:

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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:53 AM
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15. Point taken "Senator's Son," however, EVERYTHING else ...
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 05:54 AM by ElectroPrincess
with regard to all the other segments within the Lyrics fit Dim-Son to a T. Al Gore never asked for more War. :-)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:58 AM
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16. Gore Sr. was against the Vietnam War.
nt
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:50 AM
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17. actually George H.W. Bush was never in the Senate
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 06:51 AM by Douglas Carpenter
GWB's grandfather Prescott was though
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