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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:23 PM
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Look at this quote from the speech last night.....
I think we can agree there were never enough troops in Iraq. Having said that, here is the quote-

"Some Americans ask me, if completing the mission is so important, why don’t you send more troops? If our commanders on the ground say we need more troops, I will send them. But our commanders tell me they have the number of troops they need to do their job.

And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever – when we are in fact working for the day when Iraq can defend itself and we can leave. "

...Let's pretend you are a "Commander on the ground"
after hearing Bush make the remark -

"sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever".......would you ask for more troops?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:26 PM
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1. How many have we lost this frigging month??? And now another
17 in Afghanistan..... help us jeebus.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:26 PM
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2. That statement was when half the military people in that room
...went "holy shit, what a jerk-off!"...and their eyes glazed over or they started really squirming in their seats.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:27 PM
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3. and if "we" aren't staying forever, when MIGHT we start to think about
Leaving???
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:27 PM
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4. When most of their economy is firmly and indefinitely in favored
corporate paws.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:25 PM
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20. Precisely.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:28 PM
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5. Do not try to read into *'s statements ....
..... "That way lies madness."

Faye Dunaway in "Little Big Man."
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:28 PM
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6. No, we don't need more troops, but people join up anyway
higher calling and all that :puke:

He's turning it into a fucking crusade. Didn't he even read up on the crusades at all?? :freak:

:banghead:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:15 PM
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18. Nope. To paraphrase Doonesbury, "Books are Laura's thing, Bot. n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:29 PM
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7. He is trying to save Rumsfield who bullied the generals into invading
with 200,000 too few troops. He is also trying to stop Americans from worrying about the draft. Kills two birds with one lie. IMHO
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:31 PM
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8. Sooooo... your commanders are not asking for more troops because THEY are
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 08:31 PM by oasis
playing politics. Mr Bush, who's making the military decisons over there?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:31 PM
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9. Bush is the Commander in Chief, not the generals....its his call
not theirs. That means he is at fault for faulty decisions. Period.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:34 PM
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11. Bush implied that his commanders are playing politics since they haven't
asked for more troops.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:45 PM
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21. So he says.....1 troop or 10,000, he is the commander in chief
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:36 PM
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12. The Buck never stops at Shrub's desk
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 08:36 PM by Gay Green
in fact, it accelerates.

When are we going to get a Commander in Chief who will take responsibility for his decisions???

:banghead:

(on edit: spelling)
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:34 PM
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10. Media Matters has a collection of instances of the sober judgment
of the commanders on the ground being completely ignored right here.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:46 PM
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15. This is off topic, I'm afraid,
but how do you make your link say "right here". My links only have the address, like this: <http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/reg/rege.shtml>
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:54 PM
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16. Like this...
Remove the "http:\\" from your link then format it this way:

(link:www.inspection.gc.ca/english/reg/rege.shtml|like this)

except instead of parentheses use brackets and this will happen when you post it...

like this

If you don't have the vertical divider on your keyboard you can type one by holding the ALT key while typing 124 on your numeric keypad (don't use the numbers in the top row above the letters)

Give it a try! :)
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:37 PM
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24. Sure,
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 03:39 PM by achtung_circus
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:40 PM
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25. Thank you so much. nt
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:38 PM
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13. Will we keep sending more American contractors....?
If anything suggested that we intended to stay forever - it's the army of carpetbagging contractors that decended on Iraq...
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:58 PM
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22. " ... more American contractors....?"
Do you mean electricians, technicians and plumbers or mercenaries?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:44 PM
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14. PBS showed pictures and data on 10 today.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:10 PM
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17. I think that was about where I turned him off. This went way beyond
lying. Twilight Zone stuff last night.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:25 PM
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19. That last line gave me chills
"sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever"

That bastard smirked, an evil smirk, when he said it. What I heard was the fact that was burried in an untruthful context...I heard "we intend to stay forever". The hair on the back of my back stood up as that nasty bastard said that with that insane grin on his face.
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:07 PM
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23. The last 2 generals that asked
for more troops were relieved of their duties in Iraq. 'Nuff said.
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