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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:56 PM
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They turn diseased, dying and dead animals into pet food and gelatin?
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 12:13 AM by DeepModem Mom
Does anybody know anything about this practice, or process?


Case of Mad Cow in Texas Is First to Originate in U.S.
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: June 30, 2005

The cow that was found last week to have mad cow disease spent its whole life in Texas, making it the first domestic case of the disease, the United States Department of Agriculture said yesterday.

Dr. John Clifford, chief veterinary officer for the department's animal health inspection service, said DNA tests had traced the herd the cow was born in. The animal was about 12 years old and did not leave the ranch where it had been born until it was taken, near death, to a pet food plant in Waco, Dr. Clifford said....

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The Agriculture Department is now trying to trace any animals born on the ranch in the same year or in the years before or after, as well as any offspring of the cow born in the last two years. All will be tested for the disease, which will mean killing them because parts of the brain must be scooped out to do the tests.

Dr. Clifford would not identify the ranch, calling that "privileged information." Nor would he name the pet food plant, explaining that the department relied on the voluntary cooperation of such plants for brain samples. They specialize in turning diseased, dying and dead animals into pet food or into dried meal for poultry and pigs, as well as into tallow, gelatin and other products....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/30/national/30cow.html


ON EDIT: Found this link, Pets Food Could Be Susceptible to Mad Cow
http://wgnradio.com/shows/pet/petfoodsmadcow.htm

And, thanks to Triana, a link about treatment of downer cows:

"....Can’t downed cows still be slaughtered for pet food and thereby subjected to cruel transportation, handling and slaughter?

While the USDA ban on using downed cattle in human food does not specifically address the pet food and rendering industries, there is no question that the agency’s action will immediately prevent significant animal suffering. In order for downed animals to be used for human food, they must arrive at the slaughterhouse alive, and that is why it has been common for downed animals to suffer for hours or days, and then to be cruelly dragged to slaughter. If they cannot be used for human food, there is no need to keep these animals alive and they can be euthanized, since dead animals can be used for animal food, fertilizer and other ‘rendered’ products.

For years, downed and diseased animals have been used for food for dogs and cats and this is a common practice for dog/cat food manufacturers.. For that reason, many people are choosing to feed their companion animals vegetarian food...."

http://www.nodowners.org/faqs.htm
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:59 PM
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1. Google 'downer cow'...
...this is one of the most inhumane, disgusting practices and a major reason I'm vegetarian/vegan.

I will NOT support an industry that treats diseased, suffering, and sick animals this way.

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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:13 AM
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6. Maybe off-topic
But I'm a vegetarian as well and have to take a daily vitamin, but can't seem to find a multivitamin that doesn't use gelatin as a binding agent. Any recommendations?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:45 AM
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11. I get vitamins at Whole Foods...
...and I believe they are vegetarian (no gelatin) but I'm actually unsure! I should check! I do NOT want gelatin from animal parts.

bytheway my doc said be sure to take extra B12 if you're vegetarian. Nutritional yeast can provide that and Red Star is the most popular brand. This stuff is good sprinkled on food, in soups, salad, and on popcorn! And it has the type of B12 that is more easily absorbed by the body. Vegetarians should all get extra B12...
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:00 AM
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2. I gave up Peeps because of gelatin issues, but I ate literally pounds of
them every year for about a dozen years straight. x( :puke:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:03 AM
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3. I have a vintage set of peeps I've been aging for 5 years now
I will break it out for a special occasion..serve it with my 82 Bordeaux
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:11 AM
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4. Yes they do
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:29 AM
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19. Thanks for posting these links, ugp. nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:12 AM
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5. It's my understanding that "Jell-O" brand no longer uses animal gelatine.
They switched to AGAR rendered from seaweed awhile ago.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:19 AM
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8. That's good to hear if true
I like jello, but I can't eat it knowing it may be made with animal hooves...
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:18 AM
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7. This is why I buy non-ruminant horse feed
for my mares. And I'm about to start making my own dog and cat food, because the kids and I are touching that stuff and who the hell knows what's in it?

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:22 AM
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9. ???
"For that reason, many people are choosing to feed their companion animals vegetarian food...."

They're talking about dog and cat food here. People are feeding their little carnivorous friends a vegitarian diet? :shrug:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:40 AM
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10. Yea that's not good. Dogs and cats are...
carnivores. They need meat but we can be pickier about the source...
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:52 AM
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12. Careful -- you might upset the PETA bashers.
You are not to know what you eat, where it came from, or how it was handled or treated.

Those are damnned fringe/lunatic ideas and asking questions like that make people uncomfortable and might turn people away from the progressive cause.

Oh -- and beef is yummmmmmmmmmmmy.

(How'd I do?)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:54 AM
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13. Lately I have noticed my cats are not crazy about
their food....


An animal can smell disease....
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:57 AM
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14. yes...yes they do.
:puke:
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SomewhereOutThere424 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:03 AM
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15. Actually it gets worse than that
Has anyone actually seen how animals are treated in fur shops? Force fed then starved. Completely unhealthy despite the pelt, which they'll add chemicals to at times to preserve. Letting the animal die in terrible ways, like being crucified to a plank (and I do not exagerate this). They don't give them anything to combat the diseases they may have, instead, they just breed them to be as unhealthy as possible yet making the best coats. Killed in ways even some third world country prisons don't execute.

Also, did anyone know what happens to the carcasses of these animals? Diseased, maimed, tortured. That's right, in majority they're sold to pet food companies. Most people don't know this but sadly a good portion of these tortured animals are used in pet food, too, also diseased at times. The poor conditions of these animals at the fur industry sometimes are even worse than the conditions of downed cattle. Unlike the cattle, they're never tested for serious diseases (atleast at the industry themselves, don't know about the pet food companies who take them).

And people wonder why I'm against the fur trade :p
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:10 AM
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16. Yep

I abhor the fur trade. I am not vegan, but the fur trade makes me sick.

My mother has a couple fur coats, she doesn't wear them around me, because I get a nasty, biter attitude.

She doesn't have the GUTS to see how that fur coat is made. I told her that if you are heartless enough to watch that fur coat brought to market and still will wear it with pride I'll never say another thing about it.

Maybe extinction is the best medicine for our animal friends>>>Sarcasm, I am working to save them through various genetic research (not to make fatter pigs, but to protect genetic diversity)....

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SomewhereOutThere424 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:15 AM
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18. It's good to know
That you have allies against such things you'd just assume through common sense is wrong. Thanks for the post, it's good to see people working to help stop these things ^_^
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:14 AM
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17. Sure, it's probably "good for the economy"
as the phrase goes.
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