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Thu Jun-30-05 10:26 AM
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why is Novak not the one potentially going to jail? nt |
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:28 AM
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1. I think Novak squealed. |
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Actually, I spose he could still go to jail if it turns out he lied, and if the prosecutor cares enough to push it.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:43 AM
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16. He may have, it would fit the GOP rat profile |
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:30 AM
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2. Maybe he is. I would be willing to bet he told all in his interview. |
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They may be also looking to confirm his testimony from sources that refuse to divulge their source which will go to the grand jury.
Novak in jail, what a nice thought.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:38 AM
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12. Won't happen. He and Karl Rove have a past relationship of |
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"talking" to each other.
Karl Rove's boyfriend, Jeff Gannon/Guckertt -- whatever -- is suspicious for being a leak to Novak.
Makes one stop and think about things, hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:31 AM
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3. Novak Was The Messenger, Not The Leaker |
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Since he's cooperated with Fitzgerald, there's no need to cite him with contempt and put him through the same sturn and drang Miller is going through.
The person who committed the crime wasn't Novak, it was the person who told Novak...or maybe even the person who told the person. Somewhere in this chain someone had the knowledge that Plame was under deep cover and outed her. I don't think Novak did, he just passed it along. His crime is just being a toadie and delaying the truth from coming forth, but he's not the only one doing that here.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:35 AM
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9. The unspoken question is: Why are others going to jail and Novak isn't? |
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Like: others are refusing to name sources but Novak isn't in contempt too so one might assume he DID reveal his source. In other words, some journalists stick to their guns and face the consequences while perhaps Novak caved like the coward hypocrite he is?
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Thu Jun-30-05 11:00 AM
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17. Uh...Yup...Novak Musta Sang |
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At least to Fitzgerald's satisfaction or he'd be facing jail time as well.
The interesting tidbit I culled from Novakula's CNN tidbit the other day is that he's refusing to talk under the orders of his lawyer. This isn't that he's under a gag or restraining order from Fitzgerald. Thus, Novak could talk...but waiting to write the big book. It's also a trump card for him, since as long as he knows and doesn't say, his skittish coven of friends...like Tweety and the folks at Faux...won't trash him at all. I was surprised Saffire broke the code of silence.
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Thu Jun-30-05 11:45 AM
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20. If Novak was a CIA operative, he committed treason. |
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:31 AM
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4. So Novak's printing of the outing isn't a crime in itself? |
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Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 10:32 AM by rocknation
:shrug: rocknation
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:32 AM
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7. That's what I thought too.. n/t |
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:33 AM
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8. Especially since others refused to print the story. |
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Did the other reporters know this was illegal which is why they did not print the story? This could be a trap for Novak.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:36 AM
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:31 AM
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5. Matt's not going to jail either |
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Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 10:32 AM by seemslikeadream
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:37 AM
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:32 AM
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6. A guest on Franken explained it, I think |
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The attorney who defended Franken against O'Really and also represents one of the reporters being charged said he thought either 1) Novak revealed his sources or 2) Novak invoked the fifth amendment. Fucking coward.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:38 AM
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13. I think Novak ratted them out. I also think Fitzgerald has |
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a much wider case than just those two scumbags who leaked Plame's name.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:42 AM
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14. My chips are on the bar betting he sang |
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and Fitzgerald is compelling the two other reporters in order to back up Novak's testimony. Fitzgerald is making certain that all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed on this one.
I'm speculating but if, in fact, the information backs up testimony of Novak, it seems to me evidence of conspiracy.
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Thu Jun-30-05 11:45 AM
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With you and alfredo. I sure hope Fitzgerald can get to the bottom of the entire mess and expose all the bad guys.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:42 AM
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He's a good man. I disagree withhim on this case, but I understand he has a job to do. And he is a strong defender of the Constitution. I think it shows that people can have different opinions on some parts of this case, without being somehow "bad."
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Thu Jun-30-05 11:43 AM
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18. I have no beef with him |
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Everyone has the right to a good lawyer.
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H2O Man
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Thu Jun-30-05 12:16 PM
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Good point. The conflict is perhaps better resolved when the other side has such high quality of representation.
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Thu Jun-30-05 12:00 PM
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21. Who was Novak's WH source & why isn't s/he going to jail? |
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Why is the focus on a reporter who did not out a CIA operative in retaliation for the operative's husband speaking out against the WH, rather than the 'reporter' who did out the operative at the seeming behest of the WH? If Novak cooperated with the 'investigation', why isn't his WH source the focus of this 'investigation'?
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Thu Jun-30-05 12:14 PM
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22. My understanding is Novak had the story first, outed Plame first |
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and he's not part of anything involving the courts and jail time. Granted I stopped following this story for several months, but how come he's not going to jail next week along with Judith Miller?
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Thu Jun-30-05 12:36 PM
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24. It's been 'hinted' that Novak cooperated w/the 'investigation' |
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... in which case his WH source would have been revealed....yet his WH source, who violated the law, is not the focus of this 'investigation' and his source is not going to jail for this violation of the law.
Miller did not out Plame, yet the 'investigation' is focused on forcing her to reveal her source. Could it be that Novak's WH source was sanctioned by the WH, but Miller's source (who might be a different person) was not... so they need to find out who is leaking info w/o 'permission'?
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Thu Jun-30-05 12:45 PM
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25. sounds good to me; the whole thing gets stranger and stranger |
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Thu Jun-30-05 01:50 PM
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26. Scooter Libby is one source |
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On the same Franken show, they said that Scooter Libby had given permission to one journalist to reveal him as a source, so why is no one charging him with anything? :shrug:
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