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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:28 PM
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Oops........nevermind
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 12:42 PM by BooScout
Edited because sometimes I'm an idjut.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:28 PM
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1. I gotta admit...
It sure looks like the same guy!
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:29 PM
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2. i don't know
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 12:40 PM by tk2kewl
his eyes seem to have migrated close together

on edit:

this is BS... CNN never says that the "before" picture is a picture of a captor, in fact, the say it IS a 1979 pic of Ahmadinejad.

There is NO claim that the 1979 pic is that of one of the hostage takers.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3987521&mesg_id=3987625
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:31 PM
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6. And his nose has widened.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:33 PM
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13. Noses.....never stop growing on humans n/t (it's true)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:38 PM
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23. Especially for Bush flunkies.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:14 PM
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37. That *is* true--when I was a kid,
I had just one nose, but because they keep growing, I now have seven or eight.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:30 PM
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3. also...
what is the source of the first photo and how do we know he was one of the hostage takers?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:32 PM
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9. Riight click on the photo.....
...to get the original source. I took both from CNN.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:34 PM
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16. i am not questioning your source, just how does cnn know that is
a hostage taker from '79?

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:30 PM
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4. They all look alike to me.
:sarcasm:
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:31 PM
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5. I honestly don't think....
...that the former hostages are doing this as part of a Bush plot to invade Iran. He really does look like the 1979 captor.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:50 PM
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36. I honestly think you don't know the Bush Cabal that well.
I'm willing to bet if they did a line up they would have trouble giving a positive identification.

By the way one of the former hostages is a known Bush/Republican supporter and a retired military officer. One of the others is a former CIA agent assigned to the embassy.

And considering that Bush got Powell and Rice to tell lies to justify his invasion of Iraq, it isn't that much of a jump to think he and his cabal would bring some of the former hostages out to make this identification.

Money can and fake patriotism can get any true believer to lie, even former hostages.




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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:31 PM
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7. If the pic on the left
was taken in 1979, then the person is roughly the same age as the person in the pic taken in '05....(in my opinion anyway) There is no sign of aging from '70 to 05.

What do you think?
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ConfuZed Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:32 PM
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8. Ya know this reminds me of when they tried to used the missing pilot
shot down over iraq as an excuse to invade it.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:32 PM
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10. If it isn't him, then they were separated at birth n/t
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:32 PM
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11. they all essentially have the same hair and beard
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 12:33 PM by dogday
style and it could be him, could be the guy next store. When the people of the country all wear the same hair and beard, it makes it a little harder to be sure.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:33 PM
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12. If it's not the same guy..
he has a twin brother--right down to the "cow lick" in his hair.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:33 PM
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14. Brow seems different.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:33 PM
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15. Similar, but the eyes
they look way different to me.
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SomewhereOutThere424 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:34 PM
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17. You know
There are a few differences, but I think it makes it more believable, too. The nose is a part of the body that never stops growing, which can explain the bit of wideness (plus he seems to be inhaling to the right, to the left there's no sign of breathing effecting it) and the slight changes would naturally happen. Especially if we're dealing with a guy from the reagan era-now.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:34 PM
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18. First one's face seems a little longer
maybe it is the beard style?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:35 PM
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19. It's...
Jeff Gannon?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:36 PM
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20. I think it's him. Is this how Bush planned on invading Iran? (nt)
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:37 PM
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21. this post is BS
the CNN article cleary says this IS the same guy. It DOES NOT say that the 1979 photo is a photo of a hostage taker.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:38 PM
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22. Did you hit that alert button?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:41 PM
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27. i did now
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:41 PM
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25. Well crap.......
I apologize...no wonder they look the same. Oops.

I'd lock it if I knew how.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:43 PM
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29. Ya gotta admit......
It's funny when you think about all the people who swore it wasn't the same person. :9
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:44 PM
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30. lol... i was questioning it before i went to the actual article
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 12:45 PM by tk2kewl
but i wanted to know how it was know that the before pic was that of a captor.

that is why i looked further myself.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:46 PM
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31. I have been looking
For the 1979 pic of the hostage captor all day and got so excited when I thought CNN published it that I c&p'd before I read too carefully. Sorry for being quick on the draw, lol.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:50 PM
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33. this is why questioning everything is important
there's nothing wrong with not buying that both pictures could be of different people until it is proved that they are the same person.

QUESTION EVERYTHING!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:39 PM
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24. NOPE. Look at the eyebrows. Waaaay too far apart on the left pic and
the bridge of the nose on the left pic is much wider than the right pic. That's what my eyes see. ;)
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:41 PM
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26. Haha
26 years different, hmmm B/W dont seem to be natural. Somehow left right side face not balance. Well all l say is B/W eyes looks like 1 big 1 small but thats not obvious in colour pic.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:43 PM
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28. Let's say it is him
How can Bush be outraged by it considering his father's role in the October Surprise that landed Reagan in the WH?

I can't work up outrage of the President of Iran when my own country's President is a war criminal...who lies to take the country to war....and who would use any excuse to keep us at war. Use any excuse to start a war with Iran. It's not like Bush doesn't know if this man is one of the hostage takers. It's not like they even have to investigate it....much like Rummy knew exactly what weapons were sold to Iraq(because he was part of the process), Bush knows exactly who his father dealt with on the October Surprise trip.

Sometimes I wonder if the Bush Family isn't just cleaning up the loose ends of Poppy Bush and his operations. If the Iran-Contra crowd were to start dying off I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Dead men can't tell tales.





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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:49 PM
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32. The b&w photo is from Ahmadinejad's own Web site!
http://mardomyar.com/

There is no question that it is he, photographed in 1979. :shrug:
But was he involved in taking hostages? Who knows?????
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:50 PM
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34. We know.......I screwed up
That's why they are now deleted. Sowwy.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:50 PM
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35. right-o
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