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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:34 PM
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Howard Beach II
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-bat0630,0,1743013.story

A suspect in the beating of a young black man was arraigned and orderded held without bail Thursday morning.

The suspect Nicholas Minucci, 19, appeared in Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. He was charged last night with first-degree assault as a hate crime.

The young black man was beaten unconscious with a metal baseball bat in Howard Beach early Wednesday during a bias attack that mirrored a similar assault nearly 19 years ago, police said.

Glenn Moore, 22, and two friends, also black, were near 159th Avenue and 79th Street when three whites began shouting racial epithets, police said.

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Moore and his two friends, Richard Pope, 25, and Richard Walker, 20, were canvassing the area for a Chrysler 300, which someone agreed to pay them $6,000 to steal.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:42 PM
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1. Not quite Howard Beach II
These kids were looking to steal a car. Michael Griffiths and friends got stuck in Howard Beach because their car broke down.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:44 PM
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2. I know. I made sure to include the car theft bit in the excerpt.
Does it make it a not a hate-crime?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:57 PM
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4. Still a hate crime
Just not as big a story because there is less sympathy for the victim this time. I live in NYC and the first incident was an earthquake. This is barely registering in comparison.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:59 PM
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5. i remember the first one as well
i lived on LI at the time as I do again now. i spent some time living in the city in between
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:07 PM
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6. did the attackers have any actual knowlege of why these kids were
in howard beach?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:44 PM
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3. That's so unsettling.
I get so upset when I read about this crap in my own city. Why can't we all just get along?
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:48 PM
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7. but their attackers didn't know the victims were there to steal a car.
that only came out later. this information should not take any sympathy away from the victims. they were not attacked because of anything that they did or were going to do. they were attacked because they were in the "wrong" place.
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