Since * is so worried about politicians past, where was Poppy on 11/22/63?

[sabra]

<<SNIP>>
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

George Herbert Walker Bush is one of the very few Americans who does not recall where he was when JFK was killed. Yet, the following document, recently declassified, places him very close to Dallas within 2 hours of JFK's assassination:




<</SNIP>>

[Tim4319]

1. Isn't it ironic.

His son has some empty spaces in the his personal time line also. Like, was he where was suppose to be during his National Guard duties!!!!

[goclark]

20. Please ! Enlarge the photo so we can see the man better

Can someone do that for us?

That sure looks like the Godfather,GHWB, to me.
As I recall GHWB was suppose to be in Dallas that day and so was Babs and her son George!

I strongly beg all of you to do a search at DU for "Poppy" and your eyes will pop out!

When I first came to DU, I just happened to see some well linked posts about the way that POPPY was always "in the middle" of events.

I was shocked!!!I always thought of him as rather bland.
HA!! He is the Hit Man!

I was drawn to all the so called "tin hat" threads about GHWB.

I did not consider myself a tin hat six months ago but I am now!

I am now MIHOP and Poppy is/was the Godfather.

Find the link that talks about Poppy coming to visit Cheney IN the WH on 9/10! Why was he there? For what purpose?!

[LuCifer]

23. good idea

If that person isn't GHWB, it's a friggin TWIN dude!

[LSparkle]

2. He was in the CIA before he was made its director

and I've heard about him being in Dallas that day. There's a video about this that I wish I'd gotten in the last Pacifica pledge drive --I think it's called something like "George Bush: The JFK Connection". There's info in its about his connection with the Bay of Pigs as well. Verrrrrry suspicious ...

[sabra]

3. yeah, like the Bush family has any right to talk about people's pasts...

[understandinglife]

4. One of several summaries:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=96&contentid=1672&page=2
(though I have a very difficult time with much of what this person writes/"reports")

WATCH IT; SPREAD IT http://www.bushflash.com/right.html

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

[i miss america]

11. Here's a link to the video I think you are describing. Please spread this

link far and wide...

http://server2.reasonablehosting.com/jfkbush/

[staticstopper]

17. I read someone who said

that H became an Untouchable because of his work in the 60's - whatever that means...makes me wonder that maybe that is why all those rich "powers that be" bank rolled his son *.
Theory sounds sort of weird. :tinfoilhat:

[lala_rawraw]

5. Better still, where was grand-pappy

During WWII (both of *'s grandpappy's even)?

[sabra]

6. the list is very long indeed!

[BiggJawn]

12. Grandpappy was getting his business holdings seized...

Because most of them were as a result of dealings with the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei...

IOW, Prescott Bush was Hilter's "Banker"...

[Trish1168]

14. Prescott Bush wasn't so bad

Yes, he was an investment banker and one of his holdings was a Nazi front company. He was invested on behalf of a number of companies, and it was so lucrative, he even invested his own money (but he was in no way a Nazi sympathizer). If you read about his career and how he voted, he was a very progressive republican. He did the following:

1. Voted to censure Joe McCarthy (he hated his fascist tendencies). He did this despite his belief that it was political suicide. He felt it was the right thing to do.
2. Voted for (and even introduced) civil rights legislation. I'm not talking one or two token bills. He supported almost every civil rights bill that came his way (even the most liberal bills).
3. Voted AGAINST oil and gas company deregulation, over the objection of George HW, who had not only begged daddy to vote for it, but also told daddy that he was being 'threatened' if daddy didn't vote for it. He still would not change his vote. Prescott told his buddy Ike about George's being threatened and Ike (based on Prescott's story ) became suspicious enough to veto the bill. Prescott's reason for voting against it was that he was convinced that average people would see their fuel prices go up (he knew they'd price gouge), and he worried about people being able to afford the higher prices.

Prescott was an Eisenhower republican (the guy who warned about the military industrial complex). He was, by definition, a moderate.

On the down side, Prescott was a snob and a drunk. Despite his vehement support for civil rights, he belonged to many exclusive country clubs.

I read all this in Kitty Kelly's book on the Bush family. What she says about Prescott is eye opening. What she says about George HW is horrifying. He was against everything good (against civil rights, against fair housing). On position after position.....he looks suspiciously like his son, chimpy cookooo bananas. He never voted for anything on principle, except once, he voted for a fair housing bill (when he was running for re-election unopposed).

Kitty Kelly interviewed person after person who said they respected (and/or liked) Prescott, not so fond of George HW and hated W the chimp. Prescott's parents were good and kind hearted people too. So, I see a definite downward trend of that genepool. Why don't we just take a shortcut and put HW's grandchildren directly in jail? And while we're at it, W, Jeb and Neil too?

Just wanted to share a different perspective.

[BiggJawn]

15. I read books too.

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm


"Prescott was an Eisenhower republican (the guy who warned about the military industrial complex)"

Prescott Bush was the type of person Ike was WARNING us about.

Prescott's daddy was ALSO a war profiteer in WWI.

Samuel P. Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms and Ammunition Section of the War Industries Board, and was chummy with companies such as Remmington and Colt.

Frankly, I don't think much of Kitty Kelly's whitewash of the Bush family.

"Why don't we just take a shortcut and put HW's grandchildren directly in jail? And while we're at it, W, Jeb and Neil too?"

That would be just FINE with me. A constitutional amendment barring any of Samuel Bush's "seed" from ever holding public or corporate office wouldn't be going too far either, IMHO.

[goclark]

24. The apple and the tree nt

[HockeyMom]

7. That was my 15th Birthday

I will be reminded of that for the rest of my life.

[DemBones DemBones]

13. That's rough! My mom's birthday was December 7

so she had a bad birthday as a young woman, too. :cry:

[Up2Late]

8. Very interesting website. Do they say where they think the 2nd gunman

was hiding? I can tell you, and it wasn't the Grassy knoll.

The History Channel had a very well done, 8 part Documentary a few years ago (for the 40th anniversary) called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy," where they presented the first plausible position for the second Gunman.

[stinkeefresh]

9. That documentary

ROCKED.

When they used to marathon it I couldn't stop watching.

[goclark]

22. I really want to see that on TV

Sorry I missed it.

Do they suggest that Poppy is /was in the middle of the mess?

[donkeyotay]

10. He was somewhere near Tikrit

East and west and north and south of there, somewhere I think.
:crazy:

[WillyT]

16. The Barbara... And The Houston...

<snip>

Hints of the covert presence of George Bush are scattered here and there around the Bay of Pigs invasion. According to some accounts, the code name for the Bay of Pigs was Operation Pluto. 4 But Bay of Pigs veteran Howard Hunt scornfully denies that this was the code name used by JM/WAVE personnel; Hunt writes: "So perhaps the Pentagon referred to the Brigade invasion as PLUTO. CIA did not." 5 But Hunt does not tell us what the CIA code name was, and the contents of Hunt's Watergate era White House safe, which might have told us the answer, were of course "deep-sixed" by FBI Director Patrick Gray. One code name frequently used by CIA Miami Station personnel appears to have been "Don Eduardo," roughly the Spanish equivalent of "Mr. Edward" or perhaps "Mr. Ed." 6

According to reliable sources and published accounts, the CIA code name for the Bay of Pigs invasion was Operation Zapata, and the plan was so referred to by Richard Bissell of the CIA, one of the plan's promoters, in a briefing to President Kennedy in the Cabinet Room on March 29, 1961. 7 Does Operation Zapata have anything to do with Zapata Offshore? The run-of-the-mill Bushman might respond that Emiliano Zapata, after all, had been a public figure in his own right, and the subject of a recent Hollywood movies starring Marlon Brando. As J. Hugh Liedtke had observed, he was the classic figure for the revolutionary-cum-bandit. A more knowledgeable Bushman might argue that the main landing beach, the Playa Giron, is located south of the city of Cienfuegos on the Zapata Peninula, on the south coast of Cuba.

Then there is the question of the Brigade 2506 landing fleet, which was composed of five older freighters bought or chartered from the Garcia Steamship Lines, bearing the names of Houston, Rio Esondido, Caribe, Atlantic, and Lake Charles. In addition to these vessels, which were outfitted as transport ships, there were two somewhat better armed fire support ships, the Blagar and the Barbara. (In some sources Barbara J.) 8 The Barbara was originally an LCI (Landing Craft Infantry) of earlier vintage. Our attention is attracted at once to the Barbara and the Houston, in the first case because we have seen George Bush's habit of naming his combat aircraft after his wife, and, in the second case, because Bush was at this time a resident, booster, and Republican activist of Houston, Texas. But of course, the appearance of names like "Zapata," Barbara, and Houston can by itself only arouse suspicion, and proves nothing.

After the ignominious defeat of the Bay of Pigs invasion, there was great animosity against Kennedy among the survivors of Brigade 2506, some of whom eventually made their way back to Miami after being released from Castro's prisoner of war camps. There was also great animosity against Kennedy on the part of the JM/WAVE personnel.

<snip>

Link (among hundreds): http://www.tarpley.net/bush8b.htm

Back...and to the left... Back...and to the left... Back...and to the left...



Oswald my ass... We owe him a major apology!!!

[goclark]

18. Poppy has been making it all happen since before JFK

Poppy is the ring leader and always has been.
It is crystal clear to me.

He made every thing criminal happen from JFK to Iraq.

Rove and Cheney take their directions directly from Poppy.

[dxstone]

19. Same here.

Totally. Absolutely.
It's absurd; he's right out there in the open the entire time.
He's everywhere bad. He leaves a trail of destruction in his wake.
Roses wilt at the touch of his shadow.
I'm being serious.
d

more raving paranoid fantasies that just happen to be TRUE, basically, at
http://presidentevilonline.com

[goclark]

21. He is the curse dxstone the curse

It amazes me that others don't see it so clearly.

If you just look at the way he manipulates people(now Bill Clinton)it is just so obvious - he is a huge snake in the grass.

He is up to something right now, you can bet.

Name it, he was behind it --- Swift Boat Liars,Watergate( I think he was one of several Deep Throats) and on and on.

[dxstone]

25. Still with ya gc...

We're still on the VERY same page...
In THIS Oz we inhabit, when you draw back the curtain you see a man working levers... but it's not THE MAN... you gotta draw back a LOT more curtains...
Dragons like to hide in mountains, surrounded by miles and miles of impervious rock, so no foe can get to 'em...
It's odd... I've done a lotta parody graphics of butch & co, but I've never gotten around to doin' somethin' on the Evil One himself... I mean, what you're saying above? It's OBVIOUS to you and I, but apparently completely INVISIBLE to many...
Sometimes I get tired of this, man... we shoulda started fightin' back in the freaking 70's, and we NEVER SHOULD HAVE STOPPED!
But NO ONE I knew back then wanted to be involved; everyone just wanted to go disco dancing...
As a young lad, I PREDICTED that disco was destined to be the essential harbinger and first cause of the intellectual heat-death of the human race!
But even when it HAPPENED, they just blamed El Nino, and no Nobel for me...
Ha ha, just sayin'... in all kindsa ways, this country is a LOT sicker than it knows...
And dumb?... geez...

Hey, have you been to my site yet?
http://presidentevilonline.com
It's loaded with stuff like this:





Come on by if you need some dark mirth, if you like your humor like I like my coffee, black as the pits of hell...
d

[goclark]

27. I am glad we are on the same page

We need to start a Poppy Club at DU.

"Dragons like to hide in mountains, surrounded by miles and miles of impervious rock, so no foe can get to 'em..."

Poppy is a real dragon and I have no idea how so many can remain blind to his wicked ways. No idea.

The way he is playing up to Clinton really scares me. Clinton is smart but so open and honest. Poppy is EVIL to the core.

W is just stupid and has been totally controlled.
Poppy controls Cheney and always has - Cheney is an ill dog but Poppy is as fit as a fiddle and plays all the strings.

I will be checking your website!

[LiberallyInclined]

26. the cay that served as the staging ground for the B of P invasion-

was also owned by Zapata Offshore.