NightOwwl
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:30 PM
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Why is Bush's "tried and true" 9/11 strategy failing? |
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Wasn't it just a few months ago pundits, politicians and strategists were falling all over themselves in praise of Bush's constant use of 9/11? At the Republican National Convention, they must have played the 9/11 card over 50 times. And it seemed to be working; people remained fearful of terrorists attacks and the percentage of Americans believing Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attack was high. Pre-election, Bush was still successfully riding the coattails of September 11, 2001. Post-election, he is under heavy criticism.
What has changed? It can't be just the elimination of the terra alerts. Or can it? The media is beginning to question Bush's policies, but they are playing catch-up to the American people, so I don't think they deserve any credit at all.
Why do you think the 9/11 strategy is falling on deaf ears?
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:34 PM
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1. IT was never working. The polls were faked to support the Electoral theft |
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in November. They had to give the appearance of a close race to mask the theft. After the selection they let the veil drop a little. aWoL's approval ratings were never above 50% except for after he attacked us on 9/11. I am waiting for the American people to express their revulsion at the lies next year.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:52 PM
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12. His general poll ratings were so low before the election... |
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that many were predicting he would lose based on historical precedence.
I'm referring to what appears to be a major shift in attitudes regarding his ability to use 9/11 as an indication of a successful presidency. I think people are finally starting to say Bush has ridden the 9/11 coattail for 4 years now, and enough is enough.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:35 PM
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2. Umm... 'cuz emotion is shorter-lived than reason? n/t |
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:36 PM
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3. DSM has helped considerably |
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:44 PM
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9. Yeah, but there are still a lot of people who don't have a clue... |
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about the DSM. There must be more to it.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:38 PM
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4. I didn't watch him, I CAN'T watch him |
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because as New Yorker, if I hear him say one more thing about 9/11 and Iraq, I will smash my TV.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:43 PM
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8. Oh man...good thing you didn't watch his speech.... |
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you wouldn't have any furniture left. :o
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:38 PM
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5. Because most of the people now realize they have been had.After |
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the DSM, it is hard to maintain the fiction that Bush who lied about the reasons for going to war in Iraq, would tell the truth about 9/11. It has dawned on them that he is most likely the perp.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:38 PM
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6. Time has a way of sifting things out, I guess.Truth will tell 'n all that |
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:42 PM
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7. Lincoln said it didn't he |
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You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:46 PM
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his 9/11 strategy is failing because it was pre-9/11 thinking. He's just doing all the stuff he wanted to do before 9/11. No wonder it's failing.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:56 PM
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Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 05:56 PM by NightOwwl
He never mentioned privatizing Social Security during his campaign (unless he was in a private fund-raiser with his fat cat supporters who would directly benefit.)
I think you may be right.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:52 PM
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11. It's starting to fall apart... |
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...piece by piece. I knew the polls during the campaign season were rigged. The idiot never was ahead in those polls. It was all so the media could give the appearance of a close race in order to cover up the election fraud. I knew it all along.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:57 PM
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15. The Iraq Invasion was planned before 911 Attack. |
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By using 911 Attack as a basis for invading Iraq and staying there indefinetly it is plain the he is milking the blood of the 911 deaths. It starts to become disgustingly foul.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:54 PM
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13. Lies eventually expose themselves. Especially if you're President. |
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And he's one lyin' Mo Fo.
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:11 PM
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16. two fairy tales come to mind,,,, |
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The Tale of the Golden Goose
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The Boy that Cried Wolf
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I guess that neither "fits" perfectly, but they both kindof fit.
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:15 PM
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17. I think Galloway was the turning point... |
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Then Conyers took the DSM and ran with it..
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:20 PM
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18. The boy-king who cried wolf will stealing the golden goose. |
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Or how the Republicans used 9/11 to drain the Treasury and solidify their minority power over America.
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:39 PM
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22. That's what I think too... |
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After Galloway, things took a turn. I know I have been more optimistic starting at the time of his speech
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:33 PM
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19. "9/11 Fatigue", pure and simple |
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It's just been mentioned too many times to justify too many things. Now, it seems to be his answer to every critic.
Let's face it, he's a one-trick pony, and the crowds are starting to thin...
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Thu Jun-30-05 09:09 PM
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20. plus 911 itself has been carefully buried away... |
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w/out even articulating this strange state of affairs, people have noticed that the actual, real, documented event known as '911' has basically been hidden away, for some reason, by the powers that steal, i mean be....after the pigs milked the tragic event for all they could extract, they then quietly tried to bury it as a real event with real victims jumping out of windows and tried to consign it to myth....which they felt and feel much more comfortable invoking constantly... bush also is an asshole, a bully and a milk fed thug, which americans have never really liked, and pigmedia championing the loser has exposed their entire shabby morality (and with iraq always blowing up in background, it clashes)... also, a growing number of people, possibly a majority, detect that the economy is in a real mess, worse then the pigmedia will say..
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Fri Jul-01-05 09:28 AM
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23. 9/11 may only get re-examined in 2011 |
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i.e. the ten year anniversary, just seems like the media likes to do things that way, somehow they think its more "topical" if it's an anniversary.
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Fri Jul-01-05 12:02 PM
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24. but KAL 007 twenty anniversary passed |
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in the fall of '03, with barely a mention by the pigmedia...maybe because, like 911, even a quick summary of what happened draws attention to the fact 'mygod, that don't add up! that's bushit! must be!'...nope, on sept 11th 2011 the pigmedia, if they aren't in jail (i hope) will be spinning the crap as fast as they can; the passage of years will just expose the event as improbable ie mihop or lihop, at best...
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Fri Jul-01-05 12:49 PM
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25. It's strange isn't it... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-01-05 12:55 PM by CJCRANE
I don't understand why film-makers and documentary-makers aren't more interested in it, a sort of science-fiction spectacular that happened for real.
But it seems like 9/11 has already been absorbed into popular culture simply as a visual style (apparently War of the Worlds references the masses of dust and panic of 9/11, kind of like art imitating life imitating art...)
ed: sp
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Fri Jul-01-05 01:48 PM
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figghting the busheviks, the hypocrites, the holier then thou's, the 'illuminatti, the bullyboys, the greedy desperate sissies with their attack-dog professional hitmen always oncall etc, is like fighting glue, while covered with it....even guys as no-nonsense as richard nixon, lyndon johnson, jfk, harry truman or dwight eisenhower marvelled over how hard it was to do the simplest thing, if it was also for the general good! you're darn right it's strange (but never forget, fox'news' has always been the mainstream media, even when rupert murdoch was still stealing poor boxes)
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:26 PM
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21. Yep. Plus, his actions went too far with much of his longtime supporters. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 10:27 PM by lectrobyte
The most die-hard conservatives I know are not in favor of privatizing social security. This one probably gets overlooked, but *'s actions in having Cheney hold his hand after he finally testified or spoke or whatever he agreed to do with the 911 commission seemed to be a sort of turning point with some of the Republicans I know.
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Fri Jul-01-05 12:52 PM
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26. Gas and food prices. The wallet trumps all. |
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The one thing that makes people forget about terrorism is a lighter wallet.
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