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Wed Sep-24-03 09:30 PM
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Fox, MSNBC & CNN pundits immidiately following debate |
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Bill Kristol on Fox: Arianna is a pest. Arnold won.
Jerry Brown on MSNBC: I think Arianna had some great points. Arnold was caught in her trap.
CNN: Replay city, mostly Arianna.
It's funny to see the difference in coverage.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:31 PM
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1. glad to hear Arianna is getting some props! |
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good for CNN. they have much to make up for!
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:34 PM
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2. Arnold was a very distant 5th |
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He's not even in the same class. Arianna, Bustamonte, and the Green guy were the winners. McClintock is freaking scary, those eyes are pure evil. He is a smooth talker though.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:49 PM
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16. "the green guy" was Peter Camejo.... |
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Remember him. He isn't finished yet.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:52 PM
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McClintock did VERY well.
He will definitely be rising in the polls after this, at Arnie's expense.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:53 PM
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That I fell asleep every time that he talked.
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Cush
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:34 PM
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Arnie was going for Soundbytes
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:40 PM
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8. Greenfield called Arnie's comment about Arianna starring in |
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T4 a stategic mistake! Arnie looks like a dingbat!
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:36 PM
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on the whole recall thing, he hates it
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:45 PM
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13. Jesse is absolutely right on this |
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:37 PM
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5. I'll tell you who looked good ( not Arnold) |
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Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 09:39 PM by Capn Sunshine
McClintock. He was clearly not in Arianna's sights, and said a couple of things that even Camejo agreed with.
Camejo did a great job of articulating the caring , sensible approach of the greens, he landed a few excellent blows.
This was not a format for Cruz; he came off as the "incumbent".
Arianna was in her element in this format: it's just like the umpteen talk shows she's already been on and she put it to Arnold.
Arnold came off as a movie star who knew his lines; when forced to improvise he was hopelessly weak.
Compared to McClintock, he did not look good. No way McClintock drops out after this performance.
I guess Cruz' strategy of sitting back, being polite, and letting the other shred Arnold will serve him well.
Most of all, this pointed out how ridiculous the whole recall idea is.
Winner: Gray Davis.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:43 PM
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11. Mclintock did the best |
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i despise him, but he didn't get caught up in any of the bullshit, he was on message the whole time, and kept things short and simple. if i was someone watching the the debate and not too interested in politics, McClintock would have impressed me.
Arianna was good, Cruz sucked, Camejo was "okay", and Arnold was pathetic. No way that dude should be allowed to govern anything.
Jesse Ventura going off on everythign on MSGOP was great
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:07 PM
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of course on the wrong side of every issue I'm on but he certainly ran circles around the Terminated. I thought Cruz did very well also...good to be calm and rational while Arnold and Arianna exchanged personal barbs.
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Wed Sep-24-03 11:25 PM
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26. I tell my Cal friends to vote McClintock in polls except on election day. |
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:39 PM
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is saying he felt Arnie was flat
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:39 PM
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Cruz did amazing. Cool calm and collective. Arianna got her point across but seemed kinda pushy. Tom scared me with his crazy eye. Arnold was a bumbling idiot.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:40 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 09:40 PM by Cush
Arnies FACTS were out of date
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:42 PM
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from Jeff Greenfield: Huffington and the Green guy could take enough votes away from Cruz to tip to the Reps
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:39 PM
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24. Camejo wouldn't do too bad |
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And not only politically but for the state of California it would not be a BAD thing for us to get him in the governor's mansion. Too bad we only have 13 days to do it. If Camejo wins then Bush won't have a dem to use as a punching bag during the 2004 campaign, we will get a progressive in office who believes in what he says, and it would give us Greens a chance to prove ourselves as a viable political party. I don't really see a downside to this with the exception of Arnie losing the election, which isn't much of a downside.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:44 PM
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12. LOOK! They are covering Arnie's press conference!!! |
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Will they cover the others too????
I think not!!!
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:46 PM
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Don't you GET it??? Stupid unamerican liberal!
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:49 PM
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15. "I'll also be the Collectinator" |
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- Arnold Schwarzagger on how he would collect more revenue.
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:51 PM
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17. He will also be the "Stupidnator"!!!!! |
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:43 PM
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25. Also, the Adulterator |
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Wed Sep-24-03 09:53 PM
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20. I was about to post this too! |
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Will the others get a chance? This is a fucking joke! Its bad enough that he's on Oprah and Leno and his 1 minute ads that are rammed down our throats out here. Plus Wolf Blitzer was puffing him up all damn day. The corporate media is running this asshole.
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:02 PM
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Was this guy ever any good?
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:05 PM
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the Gobernator won.
The Bush standard for debate performance is applied. "He didn't wet himself" he must have won...
I thought Bustammonte and McClintock won. Of course, I also thought Gore won....
I agree with other posters MCClintock's eye thing is frightening. At least I don't live in Ca.
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