Catch22Dem
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:18 PM
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Seek and Ye Shall Find (Yeah RIGHT!!!) |
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I consider myself a Google master, but alas, I have failed miserably! If anyone can help me, I'd very much appreciate it.
For the past few nights I've been trying to find out about Kerry and Clark's Silver and Bronze Stars. What I'm looking for is the actual award citations, and I'm just not having any luck at all.
Can you help?
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:26 PM
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1. Here You Go, for Clark |
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Among his military decorations are the Defense Distinguished Service Medal (five awards), Distinguished Service Medal (two awards), Silver Star, Legion of Merit (four awards), Bronze Star Medal (two awards), Purple Heart, Meritorious Service Medal (two awards) and the Army Commendation Medal (two awards), NATO Medal for Service with NATO on Operations in Relation to Kosovo, NATO Medal for Service with NATO on Operations in Relation to the Former Republic of Yugoslavia.
His Foreign awards include the Honorary Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (United Kingdom); Commander of the Legion of Honor (France); Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany; Knight Grand Cross in the Order of Orange-Nassau, with Swords (Netherlands); Grand Officer of the Order of Merit of the Republic of Italy; Grand Cross of the Medal of Military Merit (Portugal); The Commander's Cross with Star of the Order of Merit of Republic of Poland; Grand Officer of the Order of Merit of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg; Grand Medal of Military Merit (White Band) (Spain); The Grand Cordon of the Order of Leopold (Belgium); Cross of Merit of the Minister of Defense First Class (Czech Republic); Order of Merit of the Hungarian Republic; Commander's Cross, The Silver Order of Freedom of the Republic of Slovenia; Madarski Konnik Medal (Bulgaria); Commemorative Medal of the Minister of Defence of the Slovak Republic First Class (Slovakia); First Class Order of Lithuanian Grand Duke Gediminas (Lithuania); Order of the Cross of the Eagle (Estonia); The Skandeberg Medal (Albania); Order of Merit of Morocco; Order of Merit of Argentina; The Grade of Prince Butmir w/Ribbon and Star (Croatia) and the Military Service Cross of Canada.
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:31 PM
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But I've already read that. I was looking for the actual citation for Clark and Kerry's awards. I don't know if you're military or not, so don't take this as me being condecending, but there is a citation that accompanies awards of this nature. They describe in some detail how and why those decorations were awarded. I'd love to read them.
What can I say, I really like shit like that. I'm a History Channel, Discovery Civ, Disc. Wings, etc... junkie. :)
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:34 PM
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I'm pretty ignorant about the particulars of medals. :-) Good luck on your search!
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:38 PM
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If I get anywhere with it, I'll post it. BTW, I commend you. You've been an ardent Clark supporter without ever getting into the bullshit that goes on in some of these threads. Good for you!
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:42 PM
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I'm thrilled to see any kind of positive energy or vibes around here these days! :D
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:27 PM
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2. Just curious, but why? |
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Award citations are often full of all kinds of silly language having very little to do with the actual award.
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Catch22Dem
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:37 PM
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5. Nah, they're not too bad |
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At least they tell where the incident occured, what year, etc... If you read my reply to DTH you'll see it's just because I'm interested in that kind of thing.
I of course have my own citations and shit. I have copies my grandpa's medal citations, and other documents. I don't know, I just dig that kind of thing. I assure you, there's no malicious intent here at all. As a matter of fact, I think it's bullshit that I should feel the need to even say that, but unfortunately, that's kinda how things are around here these days. Everyone seems to be keeping one eye on their own backs to avoid having a dagger thrust into it.
Basically, I was curious how they received these decorations. I'm pretty familiar with the Kerry story. I don't know if it's the Silver or Bronze story, but it's where he beaches his craft and kills the veit cong guy who had the grenade launcher. I don't know how he got the other star. And I have no clue how or where Clark got his. If you have any info, I'd love to hear it.
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:52 PM
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Here's the link: http://www.msnbc.com/news/969047.asp?0bl=-0I think it mentions either in that article or this one: http://www.msnbc.com/news/969659.asp?I know that he received the Silver Star because he continued to command his unit that had suffered a VC ambush after being seriously wounded and having no actual obligation to continue to command. That's what I read in the article, and I bet he got a Purple Heart along with that Star.
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Wed Sep-24-03 10:56 PM
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I really appreciate it. Good articles! DTH, you might want to read these if you haven't already.
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