Nixon was a Crook. Bush is a Traitor.

[Octafish]

Wayne Masden reports the Rove angle on the Plame investigation is just the tip of the iceberg. There are more names involved: "Rice, Libby, Hughes, Hadley, Matalin & others."

Like Flounder said in Animal House: "This is going to be GREAT!"

It seems Dear Leader knew Plame's name was about to be released and still let it happen. Gee. Outing a CIA agent's identity is a felony. In Plame's case, her work helped stop the spread of nuclear weapons in the world. So when the pretzeldunce let her cover get blown, he endangered the national security.



For the press corpse:
George Walker Bush intentionally made America less safe.
That's Treason.

White House Rovegate conspiracy likely to grow to include other senior White House officials

Bush Not Off the Hook -- Witnesses reportedly told Grand Jury that Bush knew about the leak beforehand and took no action to stop it.

By Wayne Masden
July 6, 2005 

More on Rovegate:  According to Washington insiders, Karl Rove is not the only "person of interest" being investigated by a Federal special prosecutor and the FBI for leaking the name of covert CIA agent to the media. In addition to the leak, itself a crime, prosecutors are looking at criminal conspiracy involving a non-White House "pass through" that leaked the classified information on Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings Associates to Robert Novak. Although Novak's now infamous column appeared on July 14, 2003, the focus is on a phone call or calls made by Rove to a non-White House player on July 6, 2003, the same day Ambassador Joseph Wilson's OP-ED on the bogus Niger intelligence appeared in The New York Times. It is also known that the White House knew at the time of Bush's departure that the "16 words" on Africa, Iraq, and uranium used in the State of the Union were false. Ari Fleischer said, a few hours after Rove made his first phone call, "we've said this repeatedly -- that the information on yellow cake did, indeed, turn out to be incorrect." However, the trashing of Wilson and continued exposures of his wife continued even after this information was known to the White House.

July 6 was the same day that President Bush departed Washington for Africa -- and it is also known that the prosecutor subpoenaed phone records from Air Force One from July 6 to July 30 --   but the focus is on July 6 -- the evening Air Force One departed Andrews Air Force Base for Senegal (EDT) (the aircraft arrived in Senegal on July 7) and the day Rove called the White House "pass through," said to  be one of the journalists subpoenaed by the Grand Jury. Rove's lawyer is now claiming that Rove did not "knowingly" disclose the name of a CIA agent. Rove's claim is incredulous considering the fact that it is doubtful Rove would have cared about Plame's identity and then sought to spread it throughout the media, if she worked for the Bureau of Land Management or the Comptroller of the Currency.

New information: There is word that Karl Rove met with FBI agents who are part of the Fitzgerald probe 6 months ago and was given a "clean pass." However, this meeting may have been a sign that Rove was nervous and sought to gauge the prosecutor's case, if any, against him. Any prosecutor would have jumped at the chance to have a target like Rove get nervous and talk to them voluntarily, especially if he contradicted his previous Grand Jury testimony.

There are also growing suspicions that Rove coordinated the exposure of Plame and her network through an entity called the White House Iraq Group -- an entity created to manage the propaganda for the war. Its members included Rove, Cheney's assistant Mary Matalin, White House communications assistants Karen Hughes and James Wilkinson, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, Legislative liaison Nicholas Calio, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, her deputy Stephen Hadley, and Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. The entire White House Iraq Group is considered suspect in knowing beforehand about the leak and participating in the subsequent conspiracy to cover it up -- both in conversations between Air Force One en route to Africa and Washington, DC and in group strategy meetings to deal with the subpoena of documents and testimony before the Grand Jury. Although the focus is now on Rove, many insiders also believe Scooter Libby phoned reporters to divulge Plame's identity.

CONTINUED....

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

[H2O Man]

1. Great article!

I think that we are seeing history unfold.

[Octafish]

5. Let's make it unfold the RIGHT way. More light!

Masden says there are other scandals merging into Plame Affair, creating a superheated scandal.

DUers know it as a firestorm of treason. Make sure the Pentagon, State, Justice, Homeland Security and everybody else who believes in the Constitution of the United States gets a copy.

The Rove investigation is also dovetailing with two other investigations -- AIPAC espionage on behalf of Israel and the forgery of Niger government documents used to justify the invasion of Iraq.

ROVEGATE: Scandal merging with AIPACgate and Niger DocuGate cases.

BWTM!

July 6, 2005 -- Rome and Washington, DC -- Breaking Story. Italian police and prosecutors investigating secret neo-Fascist Italian "parallel network" linked to Pentagon covert kidnaping team and Israel. Two arrests made, many others probable. Possible "control" links between Bush administration and terrorist groups also probed. Assassinated Deputy SISMI chief Nicola Calipari and kidnaped Imam Abu Omar (a U.S. intelligence asset) also likely aware of U.S. control links to terrorist groups.

On July 5, RAI News of Italy reported that U.S. and Israeli agents worked inside the Italian Red Brigades when Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro was kidnaped and murdered by the "leftist" terrorist group in 1978. Giovanni Galloni, former Vice Chairman of the Italian Christian Democratic Party, tells RAI that U.S. and Israeli agents working inside the Red Brigades were complicit in the abduction and assassination of Moro.

CONTINUED...

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

Indeed, we are seeing history, H20 Man.

Let's make certain everybody who gives a damn knows.

[Just Me]

7. They give a damn. It takes just a little encouragement for them,...

,...to discover their own courage of convictions for their country. They are gathering their forces and uniting as a powerful, you know.

We are witnessing an historical turning point. We sit in observance of humanity at a fork with forces pulling towards humanity in spite of the powerful obstacles.

Wow.

[H2O Man]

10. Yep.

People need to not only be informed, they have to make opportunities to inform others. This includes exercising those rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, such as using free speech and the press, to tell others about these issues. I believe that Plame, the neocon spy scandal, and the document forgeries are the three leaves on a clover we can use to teach the public. Every time you are putting gas in your vehicle, talk to the person at the next pump. Write letters to your local papers.

[Just Me]

19. It's not difficult to reach out to others.

I approach people from a position of respect, though, and I want/need to reach out to them as a part of my family. Geez, Bush supporters take care of me,...literally,...literally,...with no familial obligation to do so.

I talk to them like the friends they are,...to me. I have been brazen enough to state my belief we have been betrayed and spent by those who don't represent a party or our nation. But, I've built a relationship with these people, my people, my fellow human beings,...and they know I respect and love them.

I have had conversations with complete strangers about the status of this nation. I have never experienced those conversations breaking down into an ideological war.

Connecting is easy, if you are willing to connect.

[kohodog]

17. DSM will also play into this, and who would be surprised ie the Brit

Deep Throat doesn't have more fuel for the fire. All of this will prove that is wasn't bad Intel, it was fabricated intel. But will we ever find out the REAL reason for the Iraq war? Was it Empire, oil, Sonny's sick way of proving himself better than Poppy? Or was is a neocon/libertian utopian wet dream to build the perfect economy?

This is going to be fun, but the left will need to be organized and ready to fill the vacuum. The current Dems are pretty weak for the most part.

[stevedeshazer]

2. What's that sound I hear in the distance?

<puts ear to rail>

Is that the dam breaking?

The Clue Train pulling the last grade before it reaches the station and delivers the news?

A 'nucular' explosion?

DAMN! I hear something.

Am I the only one?

[Octafish]

6. You aren't alone, Steve!

A lot of people know what treason is.

[Just Me]

3. The BushCO/neoCON bastards exploited our security and our people!!!

They exploited our security and our people for their own self interest. They exploited our nation and her people for profit. How sick is that!!!

They have abused their positions, betrayed the Constitution and principles upon which this nation stands, defrauded and essentially murdered America and her people, violated humanity and international agreements to obey the rule of law, STOLE every fucking dollar they could usurp, crushed rather than protected the weak, embrazoned every radical bully on the face of the earth, divided the whole world,...these dark-hearted, greedy bastards will burn in hell (if they actually believe in God *LOL*).

[Octafish]

8. In Honor of the G-8 Summit

The first time Bushler went to a G-8 summit was Genoa, Italy. The guy was so afraid of getting attacked from the air, the little turd from Crawford slept aboard a US warship at anchor off the coast. This was two months before 9-11. Is the drunken coke-whore's memory THAT bad?

Plot to assassinate Bush - reports

Bin Laden: Believed to have a network of guerrillas

July 9, 2001 Posted: 9:23 AM EDT (1323 GMT)

MOSCOW, Russia -- Osama bin Laden has threatened to assassinate U.S. President George W. Bush at a G8 meeting in Italy, the head of Russia's Federal Bodyguard Service has said, according to reports.

The Associated Press said Yevgeny Murov was quoted by Itar-Tass news agency as saying: "Bin Laden is threatening the American president, but we know what international terrorism is today and therefore all the bodyguard units concerned are preparing for this.

"We view the threats as totally serious, but hope that with joint efforts we can solve all the problems."

The Group of Eight summit is meeting between July 20-22 in Genoa, Italy. Leaders from Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United States are expected to attend the summit.

Murov -- Russian President Vladimir Putin's chief bodyguard -- did not elaborate on the threats. He said agents from Russia's Federal Bodyguard Service have travelled to Genoa to coordinate with their counterparts from the other nations taking part in the summit to investigate the threats.

CONTINUED...

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/20/russia.binladen/

If the threats were so serious for him, how come Bush didn't tell the American people?

[Just Me]

16. He is the first pResident to be protested EVERYWHERE he goes.

Doesn't that fact say anything to anybody? No. Because the corporate-controlled, profit-seeking press IGNORES that reality and project their profiteering, corporate-serving prick against America and her ideals as a person deserving respect in spite of his administration EXPLOITING THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!!

America is lost, she is gagged and shackled and locked in a dungeon because these self-indulgent, shallow materialists have sold their principles and souls in exchange for EVERY REAL IDEAL THAT MADE THIS NATION THE EXCEPTION TO HISTORY!!!

How dare they whore not only themselves but this nation!!! I don't give a damn whether they sell their own souls; but, they sell the soul of this nation in reckless pursuit of their own bottomless greediness,...for themselves.

They will never get my compassion or empathy when life kicks them in the ass. They will receive what they delivered: coldness, emptiness, disdain for their incapacity to just handle it, another kick and thumping and hammering while they are down.

[kohodog]

18. Geez Just Me, Tell me how you really feel!

I'm with you on this.

[Just Me]

20. This is a matter of fact, not feeling.

True?

[kohodog]

22. Yes, and said with expression and passion!

I agree on both counts. It was well said.

[catzies]

23. For profit, politics and revenge. Petty, selfish motives all. Damn them

damn them all. :mad:

[Wapsie B]

4. Time to ready the gallows.

[Octafish]

11. Hmmm. That would be too good for them.

There are fates worse than death. Life imprisonment, for one.

Making little rocks out of big ones all day focuses the mind on what one's done wrong.

Here's what the mother of a fallen serviceman had to say about meeting the man who started a war for no good reason.

Mom, Who Lost Son In Iraq, Talks About 'Disgusting' White House Private Meeting With Bush

Claims He Was Arrogant, 'Totally Detached From Humanity' And Didn't Even Know Her Name

July 5, 2005
By Greg Szymanski

Cindy Sheehan has already had her heart ripped into a million pieces by the illegal Iraqi war, losing the son she loved more than life itself only five days after he arrived in Baghdad in April 2004.

SNIP...

But what she encountered was an arrogant man with eyes lacking the slightest bit of compassion, a President totally "detached from humanity" and a man who didn’t even bother to remember her son’s name when they were first introduced.

Instead of a kind gesture or a warm handshake, Sheehan said she immediately got a taste of Bush arrogance when he entered the room and "in a condescending tone and with a disgusting loud Texas accent," said: "Who we’all honorin’ here today?"

"His mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all. This is a human being totally disconnected from humanity and reality. His eyes were empty, hollow shells and he was acting like I should be proud to just be in his presence when it was my son who died for his illegal war! It was one of the most disgusting experiences I ever had and it took me almost a year to even talk about it," said Sheehan in a telephone conversation from Washington D.C. where she was attending a July 4th anti-war rally.

Sheehan said the June 2004 private meeting with the President went from bad to worse to a nightmare when Bush acted like he didn’t even want to know her name. She said Bush kept referring to her as ‘Ma’ or ‘Mom’ while he "put on a phony act," saying things like ‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’

"The whole meeting was simply bizarre and disgusting, designed to intimidate instead of providing compassion. He didn’t even know our names," said Sheehan. "Finally I got so upset I just looked him in the eye, saying ‘I think you can imagine losing someone. You have two daughters. Imagine losing them?’ After I said that he just looked at me, looked at me with no feeling or caring in his eyes at all."

CONTINUED...

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_miscellaneous&Number=293758556#Post293758556

And if he's in jail, we can do to him what his sub-stooges did to the children in Abu Ghraib.

[aquart]

15. I dunno. Think of feet dangling in the air.

Although I don't believe we hang anymore. Still, I always try to picture George in that Mussolini pose...hanging upside down. It's unlikely fantasy, but it comforts me, much like the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus.

[Me.]

26. I'd Like To See

A law passed that said no member of the BFEE or their families could ever participate in government again, for them to be stripped of all money and possessions and then for the primaries to be sent to Iraq in unarmored vehicles.

[Tigress DEM]

27. Would that be considered "lynching?"

Now it makes sense why they FINALLY made lynching a federal crime recently.

I saw that and I said to myself, "Reparations to Black Americans, my ass, these boys are afraid We the People are going to string their bony butts up and they are protecting their own hides."

Lord knows they have given us more than enough reason to string them up. Maybe we could import some guillotines. It worked for the French.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

34. Only if it's piano wire, and they make them stand on their toes.

[nashville_brook]

9. a "white house pass-through" ??? guckert?

and every time i see matalin's name come up i wonder what exactly is wrong with carville. how can he stay married to a traitor? i used to like him.

"pass through"... wtf

[aquart]

13. Miller?

[Octafish]

25. At best, Gucker-Gannon is a real media whore.

At worst, he is the other kind, working the White House beast. I mean beat.

What we do know, officially:

GAO FINDING: GANNON DID NOT BREAK PROPAGANDA LAW

Posted by Jan Herman on June 10, 2005 09:20 AM

Subject: James D. Guckert -- Reprinting Government Press Releases as His Own Work

You remember when Guckert (a k a Jeff Gannon) published White House press releases, verbatim, as his own reporting? Well, he did not break the law prohibiting the "use of appropriated funds for publicity or propaganda," the Government Accounting Office ruled Thursday.

Even if Guckert-Gannon, right, "repeatedly incorporated substantial excerpts ... into articles he published on the internet without disclosing that this material was produced and distributed by the government," the GAO ruled, he's allowed to because he's a private citizen.

Congressional reps Louise Slaughter and John Conyers, Jr. had asked the GAO to investigate. The GAO General Counsel responded:

In your letter, you liken this activity to activities found in earlier GAO cases regarding agencies authoring newspaper articles and op-ed pieces. However, the fact situations giving rise to the earlier opinions differ significantly from the issue of Mr. Guckert reprinting press releases. There the agencies did not issue press releases, but instead used appropriated funds to write the editorials and news stories as the ostensible work or opinion of someone not connected with the government.

CONTINUED w/LINKS...

http://blogcritics.org/straightup/2005/06/10/092032.php

I can't figure out Carville -- or Clinton, for that matter -- either.

[H2O Man]

40. Compare Gannon to the Run-Away Bride.

Start with her. Within 24 hours, the media knew enough to give a full biography of the poor dear. Her legal history, her likes and dislikes, where she grew up, all her family and friends.

Next, consider Gannon. Six months later, the sum total that the media knows is found in what he himself posted on the internet.

There are remarkably few individuals or groups that are able to completely cover a person's background that way.

[aquart]

12. Think even one of those rotten peaches will do time?

[Octafish]

21. Yes. They also have many capital crimes to worry about...

... in addition to treason.

Personally, I hope they open investigations into deaths by plane crash of Paul Wellstone and John F. Kennedy Jr. as well as the "suicides" of various opponents, people like Danny Casolaro, Steve Kangas, Mark Lombardi, Cliff Baxter, Gary Webb among many others.

Getting back to the Plame Thing: The late Jim Hatfield thought Bush a coward for fearing Osama bin Laden at the Genoa G-8 meeting in July 2001.

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield
 
Editor's note: In light of last week's horrific events and the Bush administration's reaction to them, we are reprising the following from the last column Jim Hatfield wrote for Online Journal prior to his tragic death on July 18:

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

Why would Osama bi Laden want to kill, Dubya, his former business partner?

I knew that bombshell would whip your heads around. So here's the straight scoop, folks.

In June 1977, Dubya formed his own drilling company, Arbusto Energy ("arbusto" means "bush" in Spanish), in Midland, Texas. Like his father before him, Dubya founded his oil business with the financial backing of investors, including James R. Bath, a Houston businessman whom Dubya apparently first met when they were in the same Texas Air National Guard unit. (Interestingly, both Dubya and Bath were both suspended from flying in August and September 1972, respectively, for "failure to accomplish annual medical examination.")

CONTINUED...

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

Gee. So, Bush was afraid of what bin Laden might talk about BEFORE 9-11?

[kestrel91316]

14. Bush's only loyalty is to ...............

money and power. He has committed treason in a time of war, a hanging offense, to further his own personal agenda.

[Octafish]

29. Can't think of a single thing Bush has done to make America better.

OTOH, there's no shortage of things or people to do the opposite.

http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu.html

[Swamp Rat]

24. kick and recommended!

[Octafish]

30. Your work says it all, Swamp Rat.

Bush's brain is a traitor makes all perfectly clear.

To whom are NAZIs loyal?

Nazi Echo: Argentina, Death Camps & the Contras

By Marta Gurvich & Robert Parry
Sept. 19, 1998

The tracks of secret financing for the Nicaraguan contra war may cross a troubling money-raising tactic passed on from Adolf Hitler's Nazis to their ideological heirs in Argentina: the liquidation of property from victims killed in death camps.

An investigation in Spain is examining evidence that an intelligence officer in Argentina's Dirty War was responsible for selling the property of Argentines after they were "disappeared" -- that is, taken to secret concentration camps and murdered. Money from the victims' property may have ended up in Swiss bank accounts maintained by Argentine military officers.

The Argentine intelligence officer accused of overseeing the property liquidations is Raul Guglielminetti. In closed-door U.S. Senate testimony in 1987, one of his accomplices also fingered Guglielminetti as the manager of a Miami-based money-laundering operation that funnelled tens of millions of dollars in Bolivian drug money to the Nicaraguan contras and to other right-wing paramilitary operations in Latin America.

The extent of the contra connection to various Bolivian drug smuggling operations reportedly is one of the surprises contained in the still-secret volume two of an internal CIA investigation into contra-cocaine trafficking. But the CIA so far has refused to release the 600-page volume two. CIA spokesmen say the agency eventually may release an unclassified summary, but will likely keep much of volume two secret.

SNIP...

Still, the historical echo of Hitler's financial strategies is striking. During Hitler's World War II extermination campaign against European Jews, the Nazis raised capital by selling the possessions of death-camp victims, including gold melted down from wedding bands and extracted from teeth fillings.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/1990s/consor24.html

There's a lot of money to be made off war.

[Beam Me Up]

32. What can that kind of money buy?

And what have they bought with it so far?

[Karenina]

39. Death and destruction and impunity.

eom

[Beam Me Up]

41. Yes, being outside and above the reach of law.

They make their own reality as they go along and they get away with it.

How long?

[Karenina]

45. "Evil contains within itself

the seeds of its own destruction."

Damn, I hope that adage is true!

[Octafish]

43. A Government.

Allen Dulles, Averell Harriman and Prescott Bush were instrumental in funding the NAZIs and arming NAZI Germany. After the war, these men played central roles in creating the the national security state. Do you think Gen. Gehlen repaid their pre-war favors?

Paranoid shift

By Michael Hasty
Online Journal Contributing Writer

January 10, 2004—Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

The transformation of James Jesus Angleton from an enthusiastic, Ivy League cold warrior, to a bitter old man, is an extreme example of a phenomenon I call a "paranoid shift." I recognize the phenomenon, because something similar happened to me.

SNIP...

But for most of the next 30 years, even though I was a radical, I nevertheless held faith in the basic integrity of a system where power ultimately resided in the people, and whereby if enough people got together and voted, real and fundamental change could happen.

What constitutes my personal paranoid shift is that I no longer believe this to be necessarily true.

In his book, "Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower," William Blum warns of how the media will make anything that smacks of "conspiracy theory" an immediate "object of ridicule." This prevents the media from ever having to investigate the many strange interconnections among the ruling class—for example, the relationship between the boards of directors of media giants, and the energy, banking and defense industries. These unmentionable topics are usually treated with what Blum calls "the media's most effective tool—silence." But in case somebody's asking questions, all you have to do is say, "conspiracy theory," and any allegation instantly becomes too frivolous to merit serious attention.

CONTINUED...

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/011004Hasty/011004hasty.html

Seriously. Do you think the media operate on the side of "We the People"?

[Beam Me Up]

47. Reply

Seriously. Do you think the media operate on the side of "We the People"?

No, I don't operate under that illusion. I stopped watching CON (Corporate Owned News) after the selection of 2000. Moreover, I don't watch TV as an "entertainment" medium, either. Which means that for the most part I live outside their perpetual "consumer reality" construct.

If you have access to BitTorrent, you might want to check out HYPERPEOPLE (the production of which I was involved). See: http://www.aeschatech.com

If you don't have BitTorrent, private me.

[Tigress DEM]

28. Traitor AND a Crook.

Let's not sell the pResident short. He's harvesting oil in Iraq on the taxpayer's dollar and telling us fairy tales about it. I'd say that's crookish behavior.

[Octafish]

31. Indeed!

The crazy monkey makes war to make billions for himself and his buddies. He's emptied the nation's treasury to steal billions for himself and his buddies. He's working on stealing the only monies left in social security and soon the endowment funds. After that, there'll be nothing left.

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. Back when Bush got a private lawyer for any testimony for the Plame case,

John Dean thought that was a very significant development. He pointed out the opinion among legal mavens that this was likely to be because if he had used a government lawyer, the lawyer might not be able to keep what Bush said to him/her secret. Thanks to Ken Starr, White House attorney/client privilege has been pretty much demolished.

So, to Dean, who is extremely knowledgeable and apparently never forgets anything, Bush lawyering up with a NON-government lawyer was essentially an admission that he had something he wanted to hide.

Here's the Dean article on this:

http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/dean/20040604.html
The Serious Implications Of President Bush's Hiring A Personal Outside Counsel For The Valerie Plame Investigation
By JOHN W. DEAN
Friday, Jun. 04, 2004

(snip)

This action by Bush is a rather stunning and extraordinary development. The President of the United States is potentially hiring a private criminal defense lawyer. Unsurprisingly, the White House is doing all it can to bury the story, providing precious little detail or context for the President's action.

(snip)

Readers may wonder, why is Bush going to an outside counsel, when numerous government attorneys are available to him - for instance, in the White House Counsel's Office?

The answer is that the President has likely been told it would be risky to talk to his White House lawyers, particularly if he knows more than he claims publicly.

Ironically, it was the fair-haired Republican stalwart Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr who decimated the attorney-client privilege for government lawyers and their clients - which, to paraphrase the authority Wigmore, applies when legal advice of any kind is sought by a client from a professional legal adviser, where the advice is sought in confidence.

(snip)

ed:typo

[Media_Lies_Daily]

35. Those people don't lawyer-up unless it's VERY serious!

[Nothing Without Hope]

38. The point that Dean made was that he not only lawyered up, he

took care that it was a PRIVATE lawyer, not a government one that might be forced to disclose what he (Bush) said. Why spend extra to hire your own private lawyer when there is a whole corps of White House lawyers standing by? Thanks to Ken Starr, attorney-client privilege between a president and a white house lawyer is NOT a guarantee of confidentiality.

To Dean, lawyering up with a private lawyer implied that Bush knows more than he's admitting to in the Plame case. And he wants to KEEP it secret.

[Zinfandel]

36. Bush a complete puppet, a flag waver for profit...That's all he knows...

If one can steal, lie and get away with it...

Where's the problem?

Republicans have no scruples or decency.

As Bush sees it, if he doesn't steal it, somebody else will...AND, (what an awful thought) it just might end up in the truly needy, workers, and/or peasants hands...

How's that going to help the little tyrants life?

[Octafish]

42. Bush is a figurehead's figurehead.

He loves to take credit for all the things he's done.

Perhaps the day will come for him when he wishes he hadn't done them.

An ancient Egyptian sect, IIRC, believed that upon a human's death, the soul would be judged. As a visual representation of the event, the person's heart would be placed on one plate; on the other, a feather.

If the feather weighed more than the heart, the soul continued to everlasting life. If the heart was heavier than the feather, that soul was cast into the pit.

Sounds reasonable. And just.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

37. Octafish...nice job, as usual! A few observations....

Rove's claim is incredulous considering the fact that it is doubtful Rove would have cared about Plame's identity and then sought to spread it throughout the media, if she worked for the Bureau of Land Management or the Comptroller of the Currency.

Agree 100% with Madsen. Rove knew exactly who Plame was and what she was doing for the CIA...evidently from the rest of the article, Rove wasn't the only one.

New information: There is word that Karl Rove met with FBI agents who are part of the Fitzgerald probe 6 months ago and was given a "clean pass." However, this meeting may have been a sign that Rove was nervous and sought to gauge the prosecutor's case, if any, against him. Any prosecutor would have jumped at the chance to have a target like Rove get nervous and talk to them voluntarily, especially if he contradicted his previous Grand Jury testimony.

Rove may have indeed have gotten a "clean pass" by the FBI back in 2003, but that was before Fitzgerald gathered the bulk of his evidence and Grand Jury testimony. This is another attempt by Rove and Rove's lawyer to muddy the waters, and a poor one at that.

There are also growing suspicions that Rove coordinated the exposure of Plame and her network through an entity called the White House Iraq Group

Very interesting. I had never heard of this group before. In the past, groups like this usually had the VP as a member, like the 5412 Group under Ike with Nixon as the White House point of contact. I would also theorize that the White House Iraq Group never did anything without the approval of one or more higher-ups.

This is just starting to get interesting, isn't it?

[Octafish]

44. Today's bombings in London reminded Masden of Bologna Train Station...

...more than Madrid. It's the "timing" and the "who benefits" angles that are so damning. (Sorry about the all-caps. They're in the original.)

ITALIAN NEWS OF "CONTROL LINKS" BETWEEN U.S. AND TERRORIST GROUPS BROKE TWO DAYS BEFORE LONDON TRANSPORT BOMBINGS (SEE STORY BELOW). TRAIN BOMBINGS IN MADRID AND LONDON SIMILAR TO ITALIAN FASCIST/U.S.-BACKED BOMBING OF BOLOGNA TRAIN STATION IN 1980. THAT BOMBING LEFT 85 DEAD AND 200 INJURED. A PREVIOUS FASCIST BOMBING OF THE ITALICUS EXPRESS TRAIN NEAR BOLOGNA IN AUG. 1974 KILLED 12 AND INJURED 48. ITALIAN SOURCES ARE NOW REVEALING DETAILS OF U.S. "LEVEL OF CONTROL" FOR TERRORIST GROUPS, INCLUDING THOSE LINKED TO AL QAEDA. KIDNAPED IMAM ABU OMAR AND SISMI DEPUTY CHIEF NICOLA CALIPARI HAD DISCOVERED THESE TIES. THESE LINKS INVOLVE PARALLEL INTELLIGENCE NETWORKS THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR DECADES AND WHICH ARE BEING EXPOSED BY THE ITALIAN MEDIA.

At least 40 people were reportedly killed in the London bombings with hundreds more injured. The bombings took place during morning rush hour. The explosions were in rapid succession: 8:51 am at Aldgate East station near Liverpool Street rail station, 8:56 am at King's Cross/Russell Square station; 9:17 am at Edgware Road station; and 9:47 am on a London Transport double decker bus at Tavistock Square near the British Museum. The death toll is expected to increase. There have been reports that in recent days, British security officials reduced the terrorist alert levels for London, even as Britain prepared for the G8 Summit in Scotland.


Tavistock Square bus bombing

A new group "Secret Organization -- Al Qaeda Jihad in Europe" claimed credit for London bombings. However, anyone can post to the Islamist web site where the claim appeared. Nothing is known previously about this group. However, it has warned Denmark and Italy about similar attacks. Observers also point to the odd name of the group, which sounds contrived and not in keeping with past Jihadist nomenclature.

Italy, targeted by the new group, is now the scene of a major exposé on past U.S. and Israeli support for terrorist groups, including those infiltrated by U.S. and Israeli agents. These shadowy groups kidnaped Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro and bombed two trains in Bologna.

Hours before the London bombings took place, a highly-connected U.S. intelligence source, speaking on a condition of anonymity, postulated that Vice President Dick Cheney and a cabal of neo-conservatives working in his office and the Pentagon had prior knowledge of the 911 terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon and used them for maximum political advantage. Bush, who reportedly had no pre-knowledge of the specific attacks, was nevertheless used as a stage prop by the neo-cons, going to locations where he was instructed to go and parroting pre-prepared anti-terrorism statements.

CONTINUED...

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

These times are getting most interesting, Media_Lies_Daily. With all the signs of fascism around, I'm very glad not to be alone.

[baldguy]

46. They shoot traitors, don't they?