Don't forget! The government can still kidnap you!!!!

[Dufaeth]

Thought it was about time for another reminder that Jose Padilla, a US citizen is still in Military prison without having been charged with or convicted of any crime. He is not even allowed access to a lawyer.

He has been there for almost a year and a half. The government refused to allow him access to his lawyer despite a Judges order. They appealled his decision, and the appeal will be held mid-october.

Will he have to rot in a cell kidnapped by Bush's order untill we have a Democratic President?
Why aren't people still outraged? This is at least as important as the war in Iraq.

Every time I think about it, I know the USA has already died. We are no better than a Dictatorship that "dissappears" it's citizens, as long as this is allowed.

[underpants]

1. Uh yeah thanks I'll sleep well tonight I'm sure

I see what you are getting at but that subject line made me laugh.

[Dufaeth]

2. :)

Didn't want to do another "Don't forget Padilla" headline. Thought this one would be more likely to catch people's attention.

[underpants]

3. Yeah it's real attention getter

:kick:

[VelmaD]

4. People are still outraged honey

My City Council (Austin, TX) is voting tonight on a resolution stating their oposition to the PATRIOT Act because of crap like this.

But thanks for reminding people. Eternal vigilence and all that.

Darth Velma

[Dufaeth]

6. Thanks.

I know there is a lot of anti-patriot act stuff going on, but I just don't see the subject of Padilla brought up very much. I find that a lot of people have no idea about him at all.
His story barely even blips in the media radar post dirty bomb scare.

[NNN0LHI]

5. Yea, but that will never happen to me though...

The type of mentality that believes that line of crap really scares the hell out of me. I am not kidding you. And you just watch. Some asshole will say "Ooh, we can't make Jose Padilla our cause celebre" as they stick their fucking nose up into the air. They are too stupid to realize that they could become the next Jose Padilla tomorrow and that would be the end of that. When we start letting our citizens to be picked up and held without being charged with a crime, or allowed a trial, or even without having access to a lawyer, only on the word of John Ashcroft, something is real fucked up in this country. Don't forget that decision has no time limit on it either. You are in the slammer forever or until Ashcroft changes his mind.

Don

[Dufaeth]

7. That's what I've been thinking the problem is.

Padilla doesn't seem like a nice guy, and could very well be guilty of what they claim. People already call us terrorist sympathisers for being anti-bush, imagine if this was a big cause.
It's just too important though. Goes back to the old "First they came for the Jews...."

[NNN0LHI]

8. That this post does not gather more comments than it does...

...on what I though was a progressive web site tells me that we are either doomed or those here are not actually representative of real progressives.

Don

[RedSock]

9. Padilla information

8/13/02
Padilla probably not tied to al-Qaida, U.S. officials admit (MSNBC)
An American touted by Attorney General John Ashcroft as a significant terrorism figure with plans to detonate a radioactive bomb is probably a "small fish" with no ties to al-Qaida cell members in the United States, law enforcement officials said. ... "We have disrupted an unfolding terrorist plot to attack the United States by exploding a radioactive dirty bomb," Ashcroft said, adding that the government’s suspicions about Padilla’s plans came from "multiple, independent, corroborating sources." Now, two law enforcement officials close to the case say there is no evidence that a plot was under way ...


6/14/02
Military Tribunal Won't Try Padilla, Justice Dept. Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49022-2002Jun14
The United States will not bring American terrorist suspect Jose Padilla before a military tribunal, the Justice Department told lawmakers yesterday ... The Justice Department, making its case in a closed meeting of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the United States can hold Padilla until President Bush decides the war against terrorism is over. ... "He's going to stay in the can until we're through with al Qaeda."

[Dufaeth]

10. Resource

Here is a website that is not very active but has copies of news stories and the Judge's decisions.
http://www.chargepadilla.org/">http://www.chargepadilla.org/

[Dufaeth]

11. Kickin it for the night crowd. n/t

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