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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:58 PM
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Prove to me that the world is safer now because Saddam is gone.
Prove to me that when Saddam was in power in Iraq that the world was a more dangerous place to live in because he was in power.

nuff said.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:03 PM
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1. London isn't safer
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:18 PM
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3. Allawi no longer lives in London
That's a good thing for Londoners, right?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:18 PM
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2. Prove it to me too... n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:19 PM
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4. It's sad
that anyone thought that Bush was somehow a great leader who could make the world safer. He has made it a thousand times more dangerous.
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Thrasybulus Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:37 PM
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5. Saddam is a sociopath
that would/did murder his closest relatives.

He launched two wars of aggression and would never have stopped searching for a way to hurt the US after our parting of the ways with his invasion of Kuwait.

Afterall, we only sanction wars of aggression against our enemies like Saddam's invasion of Iran that left over a million dead.

That said, I agree that we are creating more terrorists than we could possibly kill and giving them hands on training to boot. A dilemma that will be haunt us for a generation.

Dealing with Saddam was necessary, remember the Clinton administration's policy toward Saddam was regime change also-it's just they dealt with the issue thoughtfully and cautiously.

Bushco arrogance and ineptness and greed and pride drove us into this quagmire.

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:17 PM
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6. You haven't proven a thing.
Why was he a danger to this country?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:20 PM
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7. By that reasoning, the United States should've taken out Kim Jong II
first, right?

Those first three talking points don't work well around here.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:43 PM
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9. Lots of bad guys murder their relatives
Many evil leaders have invaded other countries and murdered innocent civilians, yes, millions of them.

RW talking points don't work well on DU. We have heard these arguments over and over and over again. They still make no sense.

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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:58 PM
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11. Wrong
"remember the Clinton administration's policy toward Saddam was regime change also"

NO, the Clinton policy was support of internal regime change.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:02 PM
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12. what about the Congo?
Right now women are being raped and murdered ...no one seems to want to address this genicide.

Why is Saddam the only "bad guy" we needed to take out? If by your reasoning the list is long and wide.

Just a thought.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:21 PM
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8. But, But, But... Freedom is on the March!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:47 PM
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10. I would say that the world of popular literature was safer...
...But if he's not executed, he could continue to write bad romance novels from prison for years to come, so we're not out of the woods yet.

Another side of Saddam - the shy romantic novelist
http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/zabibh2.htm
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:04 PM
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13. Hmmm...
I'm thinking...:freak:
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