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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:56 AM
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does anyone else think the attack had anything to do
with the announcement of the 2012 Olympics.....

Maybe AQ had it set up to attack which ever city, New York, London or Paris that was awarded the games.........
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:59 AM
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1. No
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:00 AM
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2. It could not have.
The coordination and planning of these attacks took months, if not years of preparation. The announcement was the day before. The message they meant to send can likely be found in the date and time of the attacks. If there is a message beyond the attacks themselves.

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:05 AM
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6. Why do you think the attack had to be planned
months in advance......

It was just four bombs......

And why couldn;t they have had it set up in NYC and Paris as well....

I don't know, it just seems like something a deranged mind would do....

The Olympics are afterall a celebration of peace and good will but are also a blatant commercial gig a well.....

Who really knows....

We don't even know for sure that AQ was behind the attack....
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:27 AM
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21. Years? Please....
They dropped four bombs off on the subway. The attacks weren't really all that highly "coordinated."
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:01 AM
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3. No
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:02 AM
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4. I think it was probably planned well in advance and didn't much
give a hoot about who won the games. London was a time bomb anyway, with Britain's involvement in Iraq and large Muslim population, which has a fervent radical fringe element.

Look for Paris to get hit too. They are much easier targets than a U.S. one. Bin Laden has focused mainly on the U.S. but since the Iraq invasion, with European targets opening up the way they are he's been allowing actions like Madrid and London too occur. If you get a chance read "Imperial Hubris" by Anonymous aka Michael Scheuer. It's the definitiver account of post 9-11 terrorism. A great overview of everything actually.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:10 AM
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10. Read it and Just dusted it off for Mrs. WC Green to read
I saw Michael Scheuer on niteline last night....

Curiously, my AMerican Foreign Policy in the last half of the 20th Century prof at Ohio State was telling everyone who would listen back in 1978 that Soviet Union would collapse due to a strong surge in Islamic Fundamentalism in it's southern provinces....

He also talked about the Iranian situation well before the Ayatolla stepped off the plan from Paris.....

He also said the Islamic world was fed up with the economic colonialism of the US, Britian and the Soviet Union.....

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:21 AM
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17. ah, so you are terra enlightened I see.....
Damn, where is your prof now? A man of that vision might want to advise the clowns we have in charge right now.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:26 AM
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20. Lost Track of him
But he worked at the State Department for half a year and came back to OSU to teach two quarter a year so he could play Rugby.....

For the life of me, I can't remember his name.....
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:04 AM
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5. I think it had to do with this......
Trial for Egyptian-born radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri opens in London

July 5, 2005

LONDON (AP) - Radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri went on trial in London on Tuesday on charges that include encouraging the murder of Jews and other non-Muslims.

The first session was taken up with legal arguments that were expected to continue all week. Court orders forbid any reporting of the arguments.

British prosecutors charged al-Masri, Britain's highest-profile Islamic radical, on Oct. 19, pre-empting a U.S. bid to extradite him on terrorism-related charges.

Under British law the domestic charges, which carry a maximum sentence of life in prison, take precedence over the extradition case.

The Egyptian-born cleric - who has one eye and hooks for hands, which he says were lost fighting Soviet troops in Afghanistan in the 1980s - was arrested in May after U.S. authorities charged him with trying to establish a terrorist training camp in the western U.S. state of Oregon, involvement in hostage-taking in Yemen and funding terrorism training in Afghanistan.


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/WarOnTerrorism/2005/0...
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:07 AM
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7. That makes a lot more sense.......
Didn;t know that
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:08 AM
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8. If that was the motive, Cleveland Ohio should be on alert as well
The news here has been sprinkled periodically about a Muslim leader who is scheduled to be deported. All stemming from the McCarthy style investigations taking place since 2001.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:14 AM
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12. Yea, that was a big deal here in Cleveland
But actually, some drunken jack ass drove his car into the largest Mosque here in the Cleveland area yelling death to Muslims. His actions kind of detered any large islamic ill will since the whole religious community banded together immediatley and condemned the act for what it was, an idiot out of control....

Teh venue was changed to Akron and the Cleric got off pretty lightly if I remember correctly....

The Justice Department had a very weak case against the Iman.....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:24 AM
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18. Wasn't 9-11
the one year anniversary of the conviction of the first WTC bombing terrorists? I just remember something from back then that people were worried about some sort of attack in retaliation for their convictions?

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:09 AM
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9. It has more to do with us stealing oil and terrorizing the Middle East
for the past 70 years.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:15 AM
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14. I think it's a reaction to more recent events,
mainly Iraq.

Before the Iraq invasion muslim extremists seemed to be quite happy to leave Britain alone.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:17 AM
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15. But it's OUR oil!
It clearly states in the Old Testament that God gave us everything from the Nile to the Euphrates.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:11 AM
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11. I think they just picked the date
because it's easy to remember - "Seven Seven", plus with the multiple co-ordinated attacks, seems to be the trademark of an Al-Qaeda type operation. I don't think it was linked to the Olympics or the G8 either.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:15 AM
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13. PRobably right, just a thought to get people thinking...
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:21 AM
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16. However, I'm not sure it'll work this time...
In contrast to a certain other leader, I don't think Tony Blair's gonna say "Everything changed on Seven-Seven" nor is he gonna put subliminal 7-7 images in Union Jack backdrops...
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:25 AM
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19. I think it has to do with this....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/27/bush.poll/

<snip>

Tuesday, June 28, 2005; Posted: 2:48 p.m. EDT (18:48 GMT)

(CNN) -- The number of Americans disapproving of President Bush's job performance has risen to the highest level of his presidency, according to the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.

According to the poll, 53 percent of respondents said they disapproved of Bush's performance, compared to 45 percent who approved.

<snip>
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:29 AM
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22. Well some in the media seem to think that
attacks like this are great recruiting tools for the terrorists by creating an escalation in activity...
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:40 AM
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23. I believe it was Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that said...
"An event like this will allow president Bush to play to his strengths."

Disgusting! :puke:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:41 AM
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24. consider the source
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:46 AM
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25. No.
It had to do with the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.
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