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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:35 AM
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Plame, sum up
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 12:08 PM by jsamuel
I sent this out to my friends:

The Gravity of the Crime

There has been a lot left out of a recent news story because of many different reasons, so I am going to try to sum up some very important information that is not seeing much light in the media.

Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent. What you probably don't know is that her specialization was in WMD proliferation. That's right! She had contacts all over Europe and the Middle-east who were talking to her about inside information about terrorists seeking WMD's.

Since she was outed by "someone" (more like "some people"), over 90 people (her contacts) could have been assassinated. Yep! The US network for finding WMD in terrorist's hands could be practically gone. So, this crime would be considered "treason", and if you believe that we are at war, then it would be during a time of war. That crime is punishable by death.

Why would any American want to out her then, right? Now here is where we get to motive.

Joseph Wilson, who is Valerie Plame's husband, was investigating reports for the government of Saddam Hussein gathering WMD. He flew to Africa to look at documents that said that Saddam was trying to acquire "yellow cake" uranium. Long story short, the documents were proven to be fakes. They were, in a word, fixed. Since this was pretty much the only evidence for Saddam seeking WMD, it would throw the case for war out the window. Mr. Wilson started to tell the press and the rest of the government so that everyone would know that what we were being told was a "rock hard case" of WMD seeking by Saddam was being fixed. (this whole thing is backed up by the Downing Street Memos as well)

"Some people" didn't like that Mr. Wilson was calling attention to the fixed evidence for war. Even worse, his wife was in a position, through her contacts that knew who was going after WMD's, to prove that Saddam was not seeking WMD's. Those people had to take out this husband and wife team. Mr. Wilson wouldn't play the game and his family was punished for it. More importantly, our entire network of WMD proliferation investigations could have been destroyed. This goes to show that "whoever" did this was not as concerned about WMD's in terrorists' hands as they were concerned about making sure we were going to war.

So then, who would benefit from this? Who was it that was so concerned that we must invade Iraq? There turns out that there was a secret group of people known as the "White House Iraqi Group", who's job it was to get the American people to want to go to war with Iraq (I am not making this up, even though it might sound like it, it is from court documents). This group of people consisted of Dick Cheney, Bush, Karl Rove (Bush's advisor), and a few other top WH officials. We have already found out that the prosecutor is investigating this group. We know that Karl Rove is at least one of the people who talked to reporters in order to get Valerie Plame outed. Since much of the courts info is secret I cannot tell you whether or not Cheney or Bush are going to be indicted. The reporter who is going to testify (the one that agreed to testify) is supposed to do so today.


Thanks for reading,
jsamuel


PS
About the reporter going to jail for defying the court...

The reporters who broadcasted her name all over the tv and airways (who were the ones initially told), were either accomplices in the crime or they were not aware that they were helping to commit a crime. Either way, they are a WITNESS TO THE CRIME.

Lets say a reporter sees a man get murdered and the murderer tells the reporter that it is confidential. The reporter then drives the murderer away from the scene in aids him (whether knowingly or not). Does that mean the reporter can use the 1st amendment from having to testify against the murderer? No, it has nothing to do with the 1st amendment. Anyone who witnesses/aids a crime can be called before a court and MUST testify. The only thing one can do is claim the 5th amendment if they feel like they could be incriminated for that crime.

So next time the media tells you this is about a reporter preserving the 1st amendment, tell them that she should be testifying or claiming the 5th. This story is about crimes against our nation's security.

On Edit: added "could" to "have been assasinated" since the source may be bad to some
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:40 AM
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1. Could you link me to the source of this info, please?


"Since she was outed by "someone" (more like "some people"), over 90 people (her contacts) have been assassinated."
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:42 AM
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2. ok, found it
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 11:54 AM by jsamuel
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:55 AM
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3. Apparently it was is a massive problem and that number could be higher
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 11:59 AM by jsamuel
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:00 PM
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4. To my knowledge there is no evidence for any assassinations
I have never been able to find a reliable source for the rumor that 70/90 contacts were liquidated/assassinated.

Anybody?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:03 PM
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5. i added "could" so as to stress that it is not confirmed
if it were true, we still wouldn't know because it would be classified... damned if we do, damned if we don't
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:53 PM
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6. selfish kick
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